SalakauHeadman Posted Tuesday at 08:57 AM Posted Tuesday at 08:57 AM hi everyone i am thinking of upgrading my setup and was wondering if these components i have selected will be enough to run dcs at max draw distance and graphical settings.. i dont use vr, only trackir5 and also i dont play in 4k. Need opinions on whether whatever i have selected is underkill/overkill currently im using a: CPU- AMD RYZEN 5 3600X 4.4GHZ 6cores 12 threads GPU- ASUS DUAL RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 EVO RAM- 16GB ZADAK MOAB 3600mhz PRIMARY SSD- 512GB M.2 NVME ULTRA FAST SSD (R:3500 Mb/s | W: 2000 Mb/s) (whatever ts means..) MOTHERBOARD- ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING (4 RAM SLOTS) MONITOR- 2560x1080. attached below is what i currently am thinking of getting
LucShep Posted Tuesday at 10:27 AM Posted Tuesday at 10:27 AM (edited) The way I see it, that system could be much more optimized for value (some things there are excessive)... but I don't know if budget is a concern or not. Nor if you're a content creator or just want this for gaming, and if you're hardware savvy (who's building this? you? or is it a prebuild?). Going in parts that I'd likely change: CPU - - - - - - - - - - - - - You don't need a 9950X3D ($699) if this is mostly for gaming - in this case the 9800X3D is more than you'll need, and it's far less money (at $499). I'd go for an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Cooler - - - - - - - - - - - - - If you decide on the 9800X3D CPU (I would) then you don't need liquid cooling for it. Then I'd go for the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 Note that any version of the Phantom Spirit 120 is good, among the very best air coolers and it's just $45 (even beats 240/280 AIOs at over double its price). Motherboard - - - - - - - - - - - - - X870 motherboards are great, but are a tad expensive (most at well over $300) and you really don't need it for a gaming intended system. A good mid-range B850 motherboard (usually around $200) is all you'll need then. I'm partial to the MSI Tomahawk motherboard in this segment, but any of these will be good: - Asrock B850 Steel Legend WiFi - Asrock B850 Pro RS WiFi - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk Max WiFi - MSI PRO B850-P WiFi - Gigabyte B850 Gaming X WiFi MEMORY (RAM)- - - - - - - - - - - - - I don't know what is the purpose of 7200Mhz DDR5 RAM on an AM5 system (maybe I'm missing something?) and 48GB (2x 24?) is too little for DCS. I'd go instead with a good kit of DDR5 64GB (2x 32GB) 6000 CL30 "AMD EXPO". For example, Gskill X-Flare F5-6000J3040G32GX2-FX5 or Gskill Trident Z5 Neo F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5N PRIMARY DRIVE (NVME/SSD) - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lexar NM790 is a great NVME but it's DRAMless, so I wouldn't recommend it for a primary (and sole) drive on a higher-end gaming system. I'd go instead with a good proven NVME gen4 with its own DRAM, if it's to be a 4TB capacity primary drive. For example, the Samsung 990 PRO 4TB or the WD Black SN850X 4TB Maybe see what next replies indicate. Edited Tuesday at 02:34 PM by LucShep added links 2 CGTC - Caucasus retexture | A-10A cockpit retexture | Shadows Reduced Impact | DCS 2.5.6 - a lighter alternative Spoiler Win10 Pro x64 | Intel i7 12700K (OC@ 5.1/5.0p + 4.0e) | 64GB DDR4 (OC@ 3700 CL17 Crucial Ballistix) | RTX 3090 24GB EVGA FTW3 Ultra | 2TB NVMe (MP600 Pro XT) + 500GB SSD (WD Blue) + 3TB HDD (Toshiba P300) + 1TB HDD (WD Blue) | Corsair RMX 850W | Asus Z690 TUF+ D4 | TR PA120SE | Fractal Meshify-C | UAD Volt1 + Sennheiser HD-599SE | 7x USB 3.0 Hub | 50'' 4K Philips PUS7608 UHD TV + Head Tracking | HP Reverb G1 Pro (VR) | TM Warthog + Logitech X56
Mk1_Trebuchet Posted Tuesday at 11:54 AM Posted Tuesday at 11:54 AM I'll save myself a lot of typing and just agree wholeheartedly with LucShep's assessment. I'll just add that if you are not planning on building it yourself, be sure to choose a company that has a history of standing behind their products. (If you're paying a premium to have some do the work, make sure they will stand behind it). 1 Asrock X870E Nova - AMD 9800x3d - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - (2x) Crucial T705 - Varjo Aero
Mr_sukebe Posted Tuesday at 01:35 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:35 PM Agreed mostly with Luc. CPU - 9800x3d RAM - 64GB, maybe 96GB if it's not much more Motherboard - Similar to Luc, you don't really need an 870. For that matter, I got the impression that the 800 series MBs only really added support for faster RAM and USB4 (please do correct me if that's wrong). The 650 and 670 motherboards are (or at least were) significantly cheaper With the savings on the CPU and Motherboard, grab yourself an Nvidia GPU. IMO the 5080 is a good unit. Half the price of a 5090, whilst providing 2/3rds of the grunt. 1 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
SalakauHeadman Posted Tuesday at 03:02 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:02 PM 4 hours ago, LucShep said: The way I see it, that system could be much more optimized for value (some things there are excessive)... but I don't know if budget is a concern or not. Nor if you're a content creator or just want this for gaming, and if you're hardware savvy (who's building this? you? or is it a prebuild?). Going in parts that I'd likely change: CPU - - - - - - - - - - - - - You don't need a 9950X3D ($699) if this is mostly for gaming - in this case the 9800X3D is more than you'll need, and it's far less money (at $499). I'd go for an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Cooler - - - - - - - - - - - - - If you decide on the 9800X3D CPU (I would) then you don't need liquid cooling for it. Then I'd go for the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 Note that any version of the Phantom Spirit 120 is good, among the very best air coolers and it's just $45 (even beats 240/280 AIOs at over double its price). Motherboard - - - - - - - - - - - - - X870 motherboards are great, but are a tad expensive (most at well over $300) and you really don't need it for a gaming intended system. A good mid-range B850 motherboard (usually around $200) is all you'll need then. I'm partial to the MSI Tomahawk motherboard in this segment, but any of these will be good: - Asrock B850 Steel Legend WiFi - Asrock B850 Pro RS WiFi - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk Max WiFi - MSI PRO B850-P WiFi - Gigabyte B850 Gaming X WiFi MEMORY (RAM)- - - - - - - - - - - - - I don't know what is the purpose of 7200Mhz DDR5 RAM on an AM5 system (maybe I'm missing something?) and 48GB (2x 24?) is too little for DCS. I'd go instead with a good kit of DDR5 64GB (2x 32GB) 6000 CL30 "AMD EXPO". For example, Gskill X-Flare F5-6000J3040G32GX2-FX5 or Gskill Trident Z5 Neo F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5N PRIMARY DRIVE (NVME/SSD) - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lexar NM790 is a great NVME but it's DRAMless, so I wouldn't recommend it for a primary (and sole) drive on a higher-end gaming system. I'd go instead with a good proven NVME gen4 with its own DRAM, if it's to be a 4TB capacity primary drive. For example, the Samsung 990 PRO 4TB or the WD Black SN850X 4TB Maybe see what next replies indicate. budget for me is not really a concern and based on the website $3973 it is actually surprisingly way below what i initially expected but of course having cheaper parts that perform the same is of course a better option. building wise it definitely wont be me cus i know nothing about pc building but this company is a reputable brand in my country not some shady small shop in a corner haha and my current pc was also purchased from them and has been with me almost 6 years now. thank you very much for your help and suggestions LucShep!! everything is explained carefully and i want to thank especially on the RAM part because i didnt realise that is not enough for dcs as i honestly not very sure on choosing parts, if i hadnt asked here i wouldve made a huge mistake. Thanks for taking your time to write this all down i will use your suggestions and cross reference them for my future purchase! 2
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