DLINK Behaviour at start up?

[speed-of-heat]

has this changed it now seems to default to GPS, I'm sure it didn't before ?

[skywalker22]

As far as I know, the only thing that has recently changed is functionalty of the MIDS switch, which you have to put from OFF to ON after the alignment is done (not before) for Datalink to work.

So move the MIDS switch to ON, after putting the INS switch to NAV mode.

[speed-of-heat]

no that not what the issue i am seeing.

once you turn on MIDS, DLNK automatically switches to GPS, in the past  you would have to select DLNK and set it to GPS, indeed it's documented that way in Chucks Guide.

[speed-of-heat]

Here's a track , as you can see DLNK is automatically set to GPS, in the past it required you to select it ?  @BIGNEWY Is this a bug or a change in behaviour?

DLNK automatically set to GPS .trk

[skywalker22]

It seems to me that you are mixing 2 things here: datalink and gps. These are 2 different things. GPS is for navigation, while Datalink is a combination of Link16 and MIDS radio and is meant for exchanging data among other aircrafts which are in the same network.

But since Datalink also requires GPS to be sync-ed, I suppose that's why you can only turn MIDS on, after alignement is complete. Thats how I understand that, but I might be wrong.

[speed-of-heat]

No, Im not mixing them up ...  but i may not be explaining myself clearly ...  GPS TIME: OFF should be the default state ... it's now ON...  this is a change in behaviour ... 

Edited April 25 by speed-of-heat

[Maverick806]

It’s in the patch notes for the April 16th patch:

• Fixed: Hot/Air start should activate GPS Time.

[speed-of-heat]

34 minutes ago, Maverick806 said:

It’s in the patch notes for the April 16th patch:

• Fixed: Hot/Air start should activate GPS Time.

this is from a COLD START 

[DimSim]

I'm new to F16 and trying to play a campaign.

I can't get the data link elements to display on the HSD, or anywhere else.

I am using auto start, which could be an issue, after reading thread:

Which suggests there is special order during startup, which may not be honored by the auto start sequence

"...the MIDS switch, which you have to put from OFF to ON after the alignment is done (not before) for Datalink to work."

If so, is there a way to 'fix' this after startup?

I have seen a fix which involves turning data link off then on again via the LIST -> DLNK screen.

This has no effect. Everything else appears to be in the correct state.

 

Edit: Repro steps:

Show working:

1. Instant Action -> F16 -> Caucasus -> Ready on ramp
2. Observe friendlies on HSD, at least after they take off after a short time.

Show not working:

1. Instant Actions -> F16 -> Caucasus -> Cold and dark
2. Press Auto startup
3. Observe no friendlies on HSD, all instruments set to expected states.

Edited yesterday at 06:09 AM by DimSim
Rename HSI to HSD

[Mapi]

HSD?

Edited yesterday at 05:10 AM by Mapi

[DimSim]

HSD, not HSI, sorry. Edited post.

Bottom right on your image.

Edited yesterday at 06:10 AM by DimSim

[NytHawk]

3 hours ago, DimSim said:

If so, is there a way to 'fix' this after startup?

Did you exit the hangar you were in (if applicable) and ensure you have enabled GPS time in the DLINK page? 

This should be done before MIDS is powered on ideally.

[speed-of-heat]

@BIGNEWY was the fix only meant to impact hot/air starts or was it also meant to impact cold starts

[DimSim]

1 hour ago, NytHawk said:

Did you exit the hangar you were in (if applicable) and ensure you have enabled GPS time in the DLINK page? 

This should be done before MIDS is powered on ideally.

Yes, tested outside hanger, on runway and in the air.

Yes, DLINK shows GPS Time and Fine.

[Roy35150]

@Mapi

Hi.

Could you tell me how to get my hud only view like yours?

Looks really good and makes things so much easier to see.