Moza new flight sim line up

[freehand]

4 hours ago, tekwoj said:

I do, regrettably. Software is bad, firmware is bad. Hardware, the base is ok, I don't have the MH-16 stick but there are multiple reports of hat switches popping out and people having to glue them.

If you want concrete examples that are related to DCS:

• modules without full telemetry support : Phantom, Kiowa, Chinook, Corsair
• base is not using full power and range for the Direct Input effects, the force cuts off at around 90% axis with  10/16th of power
• VRS effect for helicopters is modeled so poorly everyone should keep it disabled. Active regardless of your IAS and pitch, just depends on your vertical speed, but activates both up and down.
• Heli telemetry effects in general feel not working as they should
• A lot of users reports frequent loss of effects - I've experienced it mostly in FC3 modules when alt-tabbing. Takes a moment before the effects are back.
• Options to adjust force curve are VERY poor, so regardless of what you set up, you end up with a stick being mushy in the center

Interesting I had one given to me but not fired it up as of yet. 

[zcaa0g]

The scary thing is the base has been out for almost a year if not slightly longer and they still have those listed issues.  Talk about slow development progress!  I wish I could plant the guts of the VPForce base into the Moza base.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Well, this could say for many things, after x many years and it has still listed issues, sound familiar? Cough, cough, cough, which does not mean anything at all... Again, I have both Moza and Rhino and each does things they are good at. I don't see why one would put one thing into another just to being yelled at "stealing".

[zcaa0g]

22 minutes ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

I don't see why one would put one thing into another just to being yelled at "stealing".

 

That wasn't my point.  The Rhino is fugly, so I want it in the Moza AB9 body along with properly functioning firmware and software.  I like aesthetics and functionality.

 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Oh well, I guess we cannot have all the best things into one..there is always a tiny annoyance aka trade-off.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

That’s a bit harsh I think, but in the end what matters for FFB is the software, and the Rhino software is brilliant.

My Rhino is on the floor between my legs so I don’t see it anyway.

[zcaa0g]

1 hour ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

Oh well, I guess we cannot have all the best things into one..there is always a tiny annoyance aka trade-off.

 

We might have hope with Virpil of course it will be order it in 2026 and get it in 2036 or so.  I'm really keen to see what their nm rating will be.

[Nightdare]

39 minutes ago, zcaa0g said:

 

We might have hope with Virpil of course it will be order it in 2026 and get it in 2036 or so.  I'm really keen to see what their nm rating will be.

You're confusing Virpil (VPC) with VKB

Their linear throttle was teased, what? ...a decade ago?

[zcaa0g]

1 minute ago, Nightdare said:

You're confusing Virpil (VPC) with VKB

Their linear throttle was teased, what? ...a decade ago?

 

I was referring to the order time. I order from Virpil and it takes months.  I order from VKB and it's about a week.  As far as the VKB linear throttle, that is indeed vapor-ware.  They did at least follow through on the space combat throttle handle.  That's a start I guess.

[rapid]

Outstanding Moza!

The AB6 comes with the Stick and Desk mount included in the bundle for around $500- $600 that to me is a good deal.

 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

10 hours ago, zcaa0g said:

 

We might have hope with Virpil of course it will be order it in 2026 and get it in 2036 or so.  I'm really keen to see what their nm rating will be.

I do not comment on products that do not exist^TM 

[Aapje]

1 hour ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

I do not comment on products that do not exist^TM 

Yes, lets totally ignore Thrustmaster. Or is that not what the ^TM stands for?

[MAXsenna]

9 minutes ago, Aapje said:

Yes, lets totally ignore Thrustmaster. Or is that not what the ^TM stands for?

Nah, he just trademarked he's own sentence. (Or your sarcasm was lost on me).

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
 

Edited July 1 by MAXsenna

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Common sense is so uncommon, isn't it?^TM

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

OT: Received the following a few days ago.

This is the proof that I have not ignored ThrustMaster as I have the F/A-18 grip for my Rhino, The modded Thrustmaster extension for the use and a Warthog grip and base for the use of radar and CPG controller...oh...also miss the TPR...

Edited July 1 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[Dogmanbird]

15 hours ago, rapid said:

Outstanding Moza!

The AB6 comes with the Stick and Desk mount included in the bundle for around $500- $600 that to me is a good deal.

 

i reckon that's a pretty good if it includes the grip too, plus the couple of analogue axis on the sides. i guess the buyer's not intending to use much of an extension (if any) at only 6nm

[MAXsenna]

Outstanding Moza!
The AB6 comes with the Stick and Desk mount included in the bundle for around $500- $600 that to me is a good deal.
 

Interestingly you can get the AB9 for about $670 in Norway now, without a grip and the clamp though.

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk

[Aapje]

2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Interestingly you can get the AB9 for about $670 in Norway now, without a grip and the clamp though.

In The Netherlands, you can now get it for 497 euro, which is $585, but keep in mind that is with 21% tax. It's 410 euro without tax, which is $482.

And in my opinion, you are better off skipping the grip and getting a Virpil, certainly for what the MH16 costs. The Constellation Alpha is only slightly more expensive, but it is more featureful and better built.

The big question mark with the MHG-grip is whether they improve the issues with the original grip. If they do, it can be a very appealing package at the right price.

[MAXsenna]

In The Netherlands, you can now get it for 497 euro, which is $585, but keep in mind that is with 21% tax. It's 410 euro without tax, which is $482.
And in my opinion, you are better off skipping the grip and getting a Virpil, certainly for what the MH16 costs. The Constellation Alpha is only slightly more expensive, but it is more featureful and better built.
The big question mark with the MHG-grip is whether they improve the issues with the original grip. If they do, it can be a very appealing package at the right price.

Thanks! The price is always included with tax here in Norway. Ordering abroad is not an option as that will mean shipping and 25% VAT.
Grips I have, so that's why the AB9 is probably a better choice for me, as I wouldn't use the AB6 grip anyhow.
The clamp is 50 bucks, but it fits everything that fits a Warthog, right? I have the original plate for it, which I screw to some sort of board. I don't use a desk.

Cheers!

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk

[rapid]

11 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

OT: Received the following a few days ago.

This is the proof that I have not ignored ThrustMaster as I have the F/A-18 grip for my Rhino, The modded Thrustmaster extension for the use and a Warthog grip and base for the use of radar and CPG controller...oh...also miss the TPR...

I got mine two weeks back love the patch. I still use the TM Hog Stick and Throttle I'm old school.

 

[tekwoj]

19 hours ago, Dogmanbird said:

i reckon that's a pretty good if it includes the grip too, plus the couple of analogue axis on the sides. i guess the buyer's not intending to use much of an extension (if any) at only 6nm

Even with 9Nm an extension is questionable. Their base is already too soft in the middle and doesn't center properly.

[Dogmanbird]

yeah i was guessing it might do that. How does it feel with the grip attached directly on the base?