rapid Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) Seem like Moza is pumping more into the Flight sim industry . Hope Aapje will be pleased. Edited June 20 by rapid 2 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Only point of interest is: where in the 'Verse the other guy actual product? Not trying to start any fight. I am happy with my setup, so my opinion does not really matter. 1 I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
rapid Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 (edited) Hey man just posting some news. I too am not looking any smoke just adding information into my flight community. You can run down the company punch holes in the start up companies rhetoric which will help inform others so it's all good. Been with DCS since 2008 and I feel the more companies that pop up will only fuel innovation and help bring down prices. Edited June 21 by rapid 2 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Stewmanji Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Thanks for sharing! I'll be in attendance at FSExpo this year (hope to see some other DCS fans there as well) so I'll try to share some pictures/videos from the show floor if I can snag any. Totally agree with you @rapid, the more the merrier in terms of competition in the market. In the end, enthusiasts like us benefit. 2 Hangar: A-7 | A-10C | AV-8B | F-14B | F-15C | F-15E | F-16C | F-18C | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA342 | UH-1H
Aapje Posted June 21 Posted June 21 On 6/20/2025 at 3:49 PM, rapid said: Seem like Moza is pumping more into the Flight sim industry . Hope Aapje will be pleased. Well, I am rather critical of how Moza has a tendency to throw half-finished products onto the market, in particular on the software-side. That said, I like how they are committed, unlike Thrustmaster, who develop the occasional new product for simming, but fail to create a fully developed eco-system, even though that is the new meta. Upstarts like Moza are actually acting like a big company that can afford to create a breadth of products, while companies that ought to be capable of that, and definitely have the history and brand name, utterly fail to deliver. I am also quite happy with my Moza racing wheel, but I only bought it once they sorted out their offering. What I find attractive about the Moza AB9 is that they are making it into a multi-function product, which can be used both for racing and flight, which is very nice for those of us who do both. Anyway, my advice in general would be to salivate over the new stuff all you want, but then remember that words are cheap, and actually delivering things to customers is hard, so you only know what you are actually getting for your money once regular people get the product and tell us what the actual strengths and weaknesses are. Buying anything before that is essentially just gambling with your money. 4
rapid Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 20 minutes ago, Aapje said: Well, I am rather critical of how Moza has a tendency to throw half-finished products onto the market, in particular on the software-side. That said, I like how they are committed, unlike Thrustmaster, who develop the occasional new product for simming, but fail to create a fully developed eco-system, even though that is the new meta. Upstarts like Moza are actually acting like a big company that can afford to create a breadth of products, while companies that ought to be capable of that, and definitely have the history and brand name, utterly fail to deliver. I am also quite happy with my Moza racing wheel, but I only bought it once they sorted out their offering. What I find attractive about the Moza AB9 is that they are making it into a multi-function product, which can be used both for racing and flight, which is very nice for those of us who do both. Anyway, my advice in general would be to salivate over the new stuff all you want, but then remember that words are cheap, and actually delivering things to customers is hard, so you only know what you are actually getting for your money once regular people get the product and tell us what the actual strengths and weaknesses are. Buying anything before that is essentially just gambling with your money. No arguments here sir. 1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
rapid Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Got more of the reveal but what caught my eye is the AB6 FFB I can see green LED's on it. Edited 17 hours ago by rapid 1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Aapje Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Yeah, I got the mail too. Very intrigued by the 4.4 Nm AB6 base. Unfortunately we haven't been given a price, perhaps they'll announce that at FS Expo. If they shave off quite a bit of the price compared to the AB9, it may get very competitive with the top non-FFB bases. https://mozaracing.com/flight/ab6-mhg-bundle/ I also wonder what the deal is with the new grip compared to the MH16 (which is not so good). Is it supposed to be a cheaper grip? Or a different use case? Not sure at first glance. 1
Aapje Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) I took a further look at the grip, and it is plastic vs metal for the MH16, and is missing the brake lever, so it must be a cheaper grip. 1 hour ago, rapid said: Got more of the reveal but what caught my eye is the AB6 FFB I can see green LED's on it. Those are two rows of buttons (4 on each side) with RGB lighting. And they put two sliders on the front (unclear if they are encoders or axes). That makes me think that they also have to do a refresh of the AB9 to add these features, since now the AB9 is a downgrade in some ways, which would be weird. Edited 16 hours ago by Aapje 1
rapid Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago Going by the numbers would you not say that AB6 is the little Brother to the AB9? AB6 = 6Nm PT while the AB9 is 12Nm PT. could be an entry level FFB? 2 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Aapje Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Yes, of course. It's smaller too and almost certainly far lighter. Still too high for on desktop, but plenty people have cheap, weak desks, so it might be a better option for some people anyway. 2
freehand Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Aapje said: Yes, of course. It's smaller too and almost certainly far lighter. Still too high for on desktop, but plenty people have cheap, weak desks, so it might be a better option for some people anyway. Do you own a FFB stick ?
Aapje Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago This link hasn't been posted yet: https://mozaracing.com/blog/2025/06/27/moza-releases-at-flightsimexpo-2025/
Aapje Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 23 minutes ago, freehand said: Do you own a FFB stick ? Not yet, I'm still not entirely happy with the available products. But my interest means that I keep an eye on things, and I maintain a post with data for the available FFB bases on the IL-2 forum, mainly because it is helpful as reference material, when new things get released, or I want to verify some details. 1
MAXsenna Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Yes, of course. It's smaller too and almost certainly far lighter. Still too high for on desktop, but plenty people have cheap, weak desks, so it might be a better option for some people anyway. And it will probably be absolutely perfect for rotor heads. If the price is right, they will make killing. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
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