Stutters on 9800X3D 96 RAM in MP

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

4 minutes ago, Hiob said:

do you guys have the same bios version and chipset drivers installed?

Since his wife's system is Intel based, and his AMD-based, that's doubtful  

[Hiob]

3 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Since his wife's system is Intel based, and his AMD-based, that's doubtful  

missed that. 

So we‘re wasting our energy on an apple to oranges comparison? great….

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

2 minutes ago, Hiob said:

missed that. 

It's on the first page: 

But a lot has been said, and it's difficult to keep track of everything. We're all trying to help, after all.

[Hiob]

29 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

It's on the first page: 

But a lot has been said, and it's difficult to keep track of everything. We're all trying to help, after all.

Yeah, sorry. I‘m a bit behind reading the rest of the internet….. 

[taubkin]

Hey @SpecteRED I believe I'm having the sime type of issue. I have a 9088x3D on a MSI Tomahawk x870e motherboard. (I'm still running my old trusted 3080ti, and only play in 1440p trackIR). Ironically, in June's update it went away and performance was solid, but that only lasted to aug or july, I'm not sure. I can lower the settings, I can do everything, but I still get those slowdowns and frame time spikes. Using Task manager I am now very confident every time I got a spike, I have a small read spike in my DCS installation SSD. And empirically, it seems to get much worse on heavier terrains, such as afghanistan (although, now, with the uprezzed textures, Caucasus is also giving me a lot more problems). So I am suspecting something is wrong on the terrain loading/cache. I believe ED was working on a new terrain engine, so it begs the question... Still, this is a pain and has been keeping me from enjoying DCS for some time now. Can you check to see if the spikes come with an SSD read surge as well? 

[MAXsenna]

@taubkin

Single or multiplayer?

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[taubkin]

Unfortunately both, @MAXsenna.

[sleighzy]

1 minute ago, taubkin said:

Unfortunately both, @MAXsenna.

Your issue may have a completely different cause. Drop a DCS log file.

[SpecteRED]

15 минут назад, taubkin сказал:

Unfortunately both, @MAXsenna.

you definitely have a different problem, at the moment I see strong lags only when the player disconnects from the server

 

I recommend that you use LatencyMon to localize the driver that slows down the system the most. This is how I noticed that my built-in network card was having significant problems (I tried both new and old drivers). I have now installed an external network card, but now I see severe delays in the Audio Driver that the internal sound card uses.

Edited October 23 by SpecteRED

[SpecteRED]

I found a problem that looks like a conflict of my internal audio device in the motherboard. would you be able to tell which motherboards you are using and not encounter such lags (lag during player disconnection from the server)

[MAXsenna]

I found a problem that looks like a conflict of my internal audio device in the motherboard. would you be able to tell which motherboards you are using and not encounter such lags (lag during player disconnection from the server)

Have you tried to disable the audio devices not in use, and check if that solves it?
Can't really fathom why it only would be a problem in MP though.

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[SpecteRED]

2 часа назад, MAXsenna сказал:

Have you tried to disable the audio devices not in use, and check if that solves it?
Can't really fathom why it only would be a problem in MP though.

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yes, disabling audio devices completely solves the problem, but this is not an option for me. I have all the audio ports busy (and even on my external Focurite sound card). It looks like the audio driver gets additional DPC pressure during network events. On the X870, Gigabyte has broken IRQ routing for Realtek and LAN.

[The_Nephilim]

11 hours ago, SpecteRED said:

I found a problem that looks like a conflict of my internal audio device in the motherboard. would you be able to tell which motherboards you are using and not encounter such lags (lag during player disconnection from the server)

How did you find out this was your issue? Did you use latency mon or something to determine this?

[MoleUK]

14 hours ago, SpecteRED said:

yes, disabling audio devices completely solves the problem, but this is not an option for me. I have all the audio ports busy (and even on my external Focurite sound card). It looks like the audio driver gets additional DPC pressure during network events. On the X870, Gigabyte has broken IRQ routing for Realtek and LAN.

It being down to audio driver issues would be interesting.

I have seen some users report disabling audio in device manager fixed some freezing issues previously. They were using a Realtek ALC1200.

I believe Helldivers 2 recently had stutter issues after updating their wwise audio as well. Windows has always been finnicky with audio stuff.

Edited Monday at 12:27 PM by MoleUK

[SpecteRED]

21 час назад, MoleUK сказал:

It being down to audio driver issues would be interesting.

I have seen some users report disabling audio in device manager fixed some freezing issues previously. They were using a Realtek ALC1200.

I believe Helldivers 2 recently had stutter issues after updating their wwise audio as well. Windows has always been finnicky with audio stuff.

yes, I used LatencyMon to search for the problematic driver.
I saw that you also had something similar, do you also have an ALC1200?

I'm thinking of considering a motherboard with a Realtek ALC4080.

[MoleUK]

1 hour ago, SpecteRED said:

yes, I used LatencyMon to search for the problematic driver.
I saw that you also had something similar, do you also have an ALC1200?

I'm thinking of considering a motherboard with a Realtek ALC4080.

Yup, I also have an ALC1200 and also experience stutters when players join/disconnect/reslot. However in my experience this has only ever happened on servers using non-dynamic slots, and only when that server is typically experiencing higher load. But it's never been 100% consistent and I have barely been playing for the last 6+ months.

I'd be very surprised if it is a problem on the user side (or user side hardware even) rather than something server side or inherent to the game, but with DCS all kinds of weird jank and performance quirks are possible. 

[DrShaw]

I would have guessed mouse movement (due to polling rate) was causing the stutters. 

[taubkin]

On 10/23/2025 at 6:55 PM, sleighzy said:

Your issue may have a completely different cause. Drop a DCS log file.

 

On 10/23/2025 at 7:07 PM, SpecteRED said:

you definitely have a different problem, at the moment I see strong lags only when the player disconnects from the server

 

I recommend that you use LatencyMon to localize the driver that slows down the system the most. This is how I noticed that my built-in network card was having significant problems (I tried both new and old drivers). I have now installed an external network card, but now I see severe delays in the Audio Driver that the internal sound card uses.

Alright, my bad. Re-reading the topic, it sure looks like a different issue than what I was having. The SSD spikes led me to believe in some file corruption (even though verifying integrity of the install wasn't giving me anything weird), and having the time to actually re-download the whole 1.3 TB of the game actually fixed it. I hope you find the cause for your multiplayer issue, @SpecteRED. The only thing I can offer is, if you have the time and bandwidth to try deleting the game and reinstalling, there is a small chance it gets solved like mine. Sometimes technology is just like that USB cable that you have to flip 2 times to connect...