sneddz Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Hey guys Its quite simple and I have done a fair amount of research on this however it seems I am at a dead end. The problem is Starfox, anti piracy software needed to run flaming cliffs, does not want to run on windows 7 (not beta, retail home pri). I have looked at the starfox site and they basicaly say they have no way of getting it to work on older versions of starfox because they dont have the permision or licencing from the game manufacturers they support. Their solution is to install the game on an older version of windows. Now thats fine, I guess I can do that, however it bugs me that they are limiting me to a certan era of operating system. Also, I dont really want to run dual os's again as its going to be a pain to have a whole os dedicated to one game. Im well aware that perhapse I need to purchase another copy from your website. I dont mind doing this, but that wont fix the problem...I still wont be able to install the game on windows 7 because of this starforce ****. Can someone please post a solution or go around =S Thanks. System - q6600, 4gig ddr2, 8800ultra, watercooled, dual benq 24" hd2200 monitors.
sobek Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 According to this announcement by wags Lock On: Flaming Cliffs. As mentioned in the last update, we are working on a further evolution of this product line. there is going to be some sort of patch. I expect that this would inlcude support for newer OSs. The bad news is that there is no time frame for release, but i'm going to take a leap of faith and say early next year. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Feuerfalke Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 You have to update starforce drivers to make SF work with new OS. Download and install this file: http://www.star-force.com/support/sfdrvup.zip Be sure to patch to new version and if available run LO in compatibilty mode. Some people on this forum reported that it only worked for a limited period of time. IMHO this is not a very good advertisement for SF, especially looking at the long-termed development of DCS... MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
asparagin Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I'm running LOFC on windows 7. This is what I did: installed LO patched to 1.02 installed FC updated SF (win7: says SF drivers not compatible with win7) update to 1.2b (win7 still says drivers are not ok, update SF again, same) but game works Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
TooCool_12f Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 did it too, but here, when I launch the game, starforce tells me that it has to restart windows to load the driver, and as on startup the driver isn't loaded (win7 doesn't want it), I'm back to the starting point. I guess I'll have to wait 'till the update by ED
asparagin Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) yes i had the loop also but i just ignored the warning from win 7 and could start the game. hmm ..i run windows 7 professional, but this shouldn't be an issue. :huh: .. i searched a lot to find this link where it is explicitly explained: check also maybe the exact procedure (order) is important http://www.dutch-flankers.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Installing_Flaming_Cliffs_on_Windows_7 good luck Edited November 10, 2009 by asparagin i found the link Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
TooCool_12f Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 you got lucky... my game refuses to do anything without SF loaded...
Feuerfalke Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 I just installed the LO + FC - worked flawless. I installed both normally, patched and ran the sf-driver-update. Done. Maybe you should switch off user-management and/or Windows-Defender for the installation at least (and don't forget to restart after making these changes). MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
wildcat EAF51 Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 I agree I'm running LOFC on windows 7. This is what I did: installed LO patched to 1.02 installed FC updated SF (win7: says SF drivers not compatible with win7) update to 1.2b (win7 still says drivers are not ok, update SF again, same) but game works [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I'm Fighter pilot not a murderer!
TooCool_12f Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 my UAC is switched of from the beginning windows defender same... I gave it another try, and this time it went on flawlessly too.... no idea what happened. only glitch, my external hard drive wouldn't be recognised anymore... had to go out, and when I came back, it worked again. basically, I tried to use it on win7 since last february, on numerous occasions, with compatibility modes, everything.. it never did... and today, it just went through withtout a glitch (not even a windows refusal for incompatible driver.. nothing. don't ask me what happened.. I don't have the faintest idea.. and I've been working on computers for about 13 years now... go figure... ;)
asparagin Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 :thumbup: Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
Feuerfalke Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 my UAC is switched of from the beginning windows defender same... I gave it another try, and this time it went on flawlessly too.... no idea what happened. only glitch, my external hard drive wouldn't be recognised anymore... had to go out, and when I came back, it worked again. basically, I tried to use it on win7 since last february, on numerous occasions, with compatibility modes, everything.. it never did... and today, it just went through withtout a glitch (not even a windows refusal for incompatible driver.. nothing. don't ask me what happened.. I don't have the faintest idea.. and I've been working on computers for about 13 years now... go figure... ;) Well, it's windows after all, so the old method still works: If you have a problem: Restart and try again. :doh: MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
71st_Mastiff Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Well, it's windows after all, so the old method still works: If you have a problem: Restart and try again. :doh: them dang ghost in the machine! :joystick: "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
sneddz Posted November 13, 2009 Author Posted November 13, 2009 Wow, very interesting. Good to hear a patch is on the way it seems looking over the SF topic, alot of people have had no responce from the much larger game developers, good to hear our developers acctualy care. Ill try again, see how we go. Im stuck at the restart to install sf part, i have tried the updates and even the SF update does the same loop so im thinking it might have something to do with the version of windows 7? im using Home premium as mentioned. Cheers for the responces and the thread move by the admin, I did have a look around but being new to the forum i chose to take a stab in the dark. Ill keep browsing the forums to see what sucsess people have as more people move to windows 7 Thanks again guys. Sneddz.
TooCool_12f Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 here's what I did step by step: - install lock on (in default folder) first, don't lanch autorun automatically. open the folder (cd), right click on autorun.exe, select Compatibility tab, once there, select win xp SP3 compatibility mode and check the box to run that file as administrator. only after that launch the application by double-clicking on it. when it's over: - install flaming cliffs same thing as lock on install: you refuse the autrun automatic start, go on the CD and select compatibility mode (XP SP3) and run as admin once it's finished - install patch 1.12b same again, compatibility mode and run as admin. For some reason it wants to install to "Eagle Dynam" folder instead of the game one. just let it go and then copy the contents c:\program files\eagle dynam folder to the good one (eagle dynamics\Lock On\ ) - reboot when required when you launch the game first time. - ignore the message about driver no compatible if you get one (I didn't even get that) - update starforce with the update utility from their site maybe it work for you that way too
PoleCat Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 Here is a proper install routine. Do not install any patches between lockon and flaming cliffs as they are not needed. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=769004&postcount=3 Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
CapnGimp Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 ha thanks polecat been over a year since I flew loaded it on & last night n banging my head since off n on lol Ill do this way now I-5 2500K@3.3GHz 8GB AMD_5850 Linux and Win7 for games X52 working on getting IR built
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