bird ingestion in FC 2.0??

[Vibora]

We're talking about high speed treks across the country - I don't think you'll have bird issues near the runways, TBH.

If you mean in RL, yes you have, many birds strikes happen during landings or take-offs. Flying at high speeds you will probably see a bird in the very last moment before it hits you.

[EtherealN]

Actually, while I've never had a bird-strike in an IRL aircraft, I have had birdstrikes on the freeway - and even at as low a speed as 160km/h (yeayea, it's all relative) avoidance was pretty much impossible. I was chicken enough that I did take cover tho. :)

 

A real life example would be see from that A-10 video that was posted earlier. How well place do you reckon you'd be to take evasive action there? At even lower speed - let's say you're on final - I guess it might be possible if it's a hella big bird and you happen to see it coming. But I am skeptical of evasion being more than one of those things where your mates will afterwards say "you lucky bastard".

Edited November 30, 2009 by EtherealN

[GGTharos]

No, I mean in LO.

 

And yes, I'm aware about what it looks like, there's plenty of youtube videos. I also have the word of a fighter pilot that a lot of time you only see the close calls on HUD tape, almsot never with your eyes - you are looking for other things after all, it's probably not quite the same as flying a commercial aircraft.

 

If you mean in RL, yes you have, many birds strikes happen during landings or take-offs. Flying at high speeds you will probably see a bird in the very last moment before it hits you.

[MoGas]

Well, I had a birdstrike, with around 190km/h on a flyt with a Bell 206L, and this was like get shot from, or heavy gun lol. This "bird" was a Buzzard, quit heavy this thing...! The good thing, he missed the windshild, he hit the left front door frame.

 

The clean up later was bad....

 

But it is still curious, why should a Buzzard not see u....

[Vibora]

No, I mean in LO.

 

And yes, I'm aware about what it looks like, there's plenty of youtube videos. I also have the word of a fighter pilot that a lot of time you only see the close calls on HUD tape, almsot never with your eyes - you are looking for other things after all, it's probably not quite the same as flying a commercial aircraft.

Yes that's the question, is you're not looking at the front of course you won't see anything. But I've seen many birds on take offs and landings approaching my aircraft (yes commercial) and had time enough to change the path and avoid them, sometimes you can just bank the aircraft and the bird will turn in the opposite direction, of course other times you don't see them for whatever reason (small birds, you are not looking, light conditions, etc), or there's no time for reaction and collide.

[Bucic]

Don't forget about bird pods. They are to be observed by the pilot. Once you fly in a bird pod the hit probability raises to ~100%.

 

On a side note - a bird pods was one of probable causes of air disaster in Polish Air Force Academy. Student pilot observing bird pods on the nearby lake could lost focus for a moment which contributed to the final disaster. The exercise was marked ground object attack approach on TS-11 Iskra (Spark) jet trainer. He started pulling up too late, hit tree tops and lost control IIRC. I have the report somewhere. Birds really piss me off since I read that report...

[galagamo]

Birds really piss me off since I read that report...

They were up here first:music_whistling: I'm sure it's not a pleasant experience for them either. It's a calculated risk we all have to take when flying. Anyway it's a nice feature for FC2 I think I'll have some fun with it at first

[mvsgas]

About Bird strike testing

 

:D

Scientists at NASA built a gun specifically to launch dead chickens at the windshields of airliners, military jets and the space shuttle, all traveling at maximum velocity. The idea is to simulate the frequent incidents of collisions with airborne fowl to test the strength of the windshields.

 

British engineers heard about the gun and were eager to test it on the windshields of their new high speed trains. Arrangements were made, and a gun was sent to the British engineers.

 

When the gun was fired, the engineers stood shocked as the Chicken hurtled out of the barrel, crashed into the shatter-proof windshield, smashed it to smithereens, blasted through the control console, snapped the engineer's backrest in two and embedded itself in the back wall of the cabin, like an arrow shot from a bow.

 

The horrified Britons sent NASA the disastrous results of the experiment, along with the designs of the windshield, and begged the U.S. scientists for suggestions.

 

NASA responded with a one-line memo: "Thaw the chicken."

 

http://www.fodnews.com/article1.html

http://wildlife.pr.erau.edu/International.htm

Edited December 1, 2009 by mvsgas

[Vekkinho]

No. It's a probabilistic simulation. You don't see them coming in RL anyway, you'll usually see the close call in a HUD tape or something.

 

As such there's no point in wasting CPU resources to simulate the 3d object.

 

Not seeing the birds IRL?!! Where did you get that from?

 

However I agree with wasting resources plus IIRC there's the bird mod available for DL!

[monotwix]

Here is the 3D birds mode, see what it‘s like.

They have approx 2ft wing span.

 

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[Vekkinho]

Must be a flock of golden eagles...