majapahit Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 happened couple of times now I do autostart or have game starting inflight 9kt@200mtr - I hit 'hover' and 3blue lights pitch/bank/lateral switch to blinking and I'm on a rollercoaster, have to hit Hover Off, and reselect 3xblue, then try again, and they start blinking, rollercoaster again, etc. I tried doing Trim first before Hover, seemed to work 1 time, but again, Not, 3blinking blue lights, rollercoaster. When I hit Hover again like 6~10 minutes later, all works again. ?? - There's a Laser overheat (or something), and this should show in the HUD with a big X(?? maybe), anyway, after >30min in the action and after firing a dozen plus missiles, all of a sudden the missiles Miss the locked target by a hundred yard (short). They burry themselves into the ground. No warning light, no warning message. Switch the laser off, wait couple of minutes, switch laser On, same though, missiles dont reach target, but bury themselves into the ground, I have to stop mission and return to base .. what am I missing here? thx | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
zdXu Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 happened couple of times now I do autostart or have game starting inflight 9kt@200mtr - I hit 'hover' and 3blue lights pitch/bank/lateral switch to blinking and I'm on a rollercoaster, have to hit Hover Off, and reselect 3xblue, then try again, and they start blinking, rollercoaster again, etc. I tried doing Trim first before Hover, seemed to work 1 time, but again, Not, 3blinking blue lights, rollercoaster. When I hit Hover again like 6~10 minutes later, all works again. ?? - There's a Laser overheat (or something), and this should show in the HUD with a big X(?? maybe), anyway, after >30min in the action and after firing a dozen plus missiles, all of a sudden the missiles Miss the locked target by a hundred yard (short). They burry themselves into the ground. No warning light, no warning message. Switch the laser off, wait couple of minutes, switch laser On, same though, missiles dont reach target, but bury themselves into the ground, I have to stop mission and return to base .. what am I missing here? thx 1.) you stressed too much the hover-autopilot with climbing. Consequence: all autopilot-functions disable 2.) you missed the forum search function. Try: "laser" "burnout" etc.
EinsteinEP Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 1.) You attempted to activate Auto-Hover before the doppler nav system had warmed up. Wait for ground-speed indication in upper left of HUD to appear (about 3min after K-041 switch is turned on) before using this autopilot feature. Shoot to Kill. Play to Have Fun.
Speed_2 Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 There's some system that needs spooling up before you can use autohover. If you don't see your airspeed on the hud, then it's not safe to use autohover, and trying to do so will cause your autopilot channels to disable. It's really stupid, why not just disallow use of autohover?- but that's how it works in game. This kills many new pilots. To anyone who knows, what is that system, and how can I check to see if it's online yet without having to check to see if I am getting an airspeed on my HUD? Edit: Ah thanks, "Einstein" :) But any other indications anywhere else? arrogant, realism-obsessed Falcon 4 junkie
AlphaOneSix Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 To anyone who knows, what is that system, and how can I check to see if it's online yet without having to check to see if I am getting an airspeed on my HUD? Yeah, as mentioned it's the INS. There is no indication that it's ready. It takes three minutes to begin operating properly. Just turn on the INS earlier in your checklist, it's on the inverter bus so it can get power before the generators come online.
majapahit Posted February 3, 2010 Author Posted February 3, 2010 2.) you missed the forum search function. Try: "laser" "burnout" etc. if onlyI knew it was a 'burnout' anyway, reading the links I now know a lot more how to fly a campaign; minimal laser, return to Farp & shutoff/wait 3min thx guys | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
majapahit Posted February 12, 2010 Author Posted February 12, 2010 1.) You attempted to activate Auto-Hover before the doppler nav system had warmed up. Wait for ground-speed indication in upper left of HUD to appear (about 3min after K-041 switch is turned on) before using this autopilot feature. youre right on the money! :thumbup: What I wonder, though, where did you find this information? cant even find the 'when INS NAV is On, grndspeed will show in top left hud' let alone "3min after K-041 switch is turned on" ?? thx, mt | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
MTFDarkEagle Posted February 12, 2010 Posted February 12, 2010 What I wonder, though, where did you find this information? cant even find the 'when INS NAV is On, grndspeed will show in top left hud' let alone "3min after K-041 switch is turned on" ?? thx, mt Look at the hud. When you see the speed in the top left corner, you can engage auto hover safely :) Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
majapahit Posted February 12, 2010 Author Posted February 12, 2010 Look at the hud. When you see the speed in the top left corner, you can engage auto hover safely :) I know, I know, but where did you find this info? | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
EtherealN Posted February 12, 2010 Posted February 12, 2010 without having to check to see if I am getting an airspeed on my HUD? Note that HUD displays ground speed, not air speed. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
majapahit Posted February 12, 2010 Author Posted February 12, 2010 Note that HUD displays ground speed, not air speed. ;)now we're really funny | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
AlphaOneSix Posted February 12, 2010 Posted February 12, 2010 The ground speed indication on the HUD really originates from the Doppler system (ДИСС/DISS). The Doppler system talks to the PNK-800 Flight Navigation System, as do several other systems, such as the air data system (pitot and static pressures), radar altimeter, Inertial Navigation Unit, etc. Note that the ABRIS Advanced Moving Map System does not talk to the PNK-800 Flight Navigation system at all. The autopilot gets its information from the PNK system. If your HUD is not showing an airspeed, then the PNK has not received enough information from the Doppler system to know your ground speed, so it doesn't display anything. This is usually because the Doppler system needs to "see something move" (so to speak) before it can reliably provide drift/speed information. Think of it as kickstarting the Doppler by moving the aircraft around a bit. Once the PNK has ground speed information from the Doppler, it will be able to give the autopilot proper instructions to keep your drift at zero (i.e. hover). Engaging the auto-hover mode of the autopilot before the PNK knows your ground speed will result in your autopilot channels being kicked offline rather unceremoniously, except for three annoying, blinking AP lights (which, by the way, can be re-clicked to toggle them back on).
Frederf Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Interesting about needing to "jiggle your optical computer mouse" to establish a running history for the doppler system to work. I must make sure never to test the autohover system again without thinking during a hover check. Also, when the AP channel buttonlights blink, does that mean the entire channel is off or just the hold?
majapahit Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 Interesting about needing to "jiggle your optical computer mouse" to establish a running history for the doppler system to work. I must make sure never to test the autohover system again without thinking during a hover check. Also, when the AP channel buttonlights blink, does that mean the entire channel is off or just the hold? considering your BS is all over the place .... | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
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