Best video card for Lock-on?>

[amagad]

Hi all, i am planning on buying a new video card because im tired of running lock-on on 15fps with everything set to low. I was looking at an affordable nvidia 6600 gt pci-express 128mb card and i was wondering if any of you have it, how many fps are u getting with it at high settings? Also which one is better the 6600 256mb or the 6600 GT 128 mb?

And finally , to run a pci-express card the only thing you need is a pci slot right?. Or does my motherboard has to be pci-express compatible? I have an ASUS AGP 8x motherboard with 6 pci slots. And my current video card is an Nvidia FX 5200 128 AGP 8X.

 

Please HELP me and post some replies. Thank you.

[ThirdELTPoznan]

I would choose from taht two:

http://www.ckznak.pl/pages/show_compare.php?id=kgATIX850XTSap256VIVO+PE

[EvilGun]

I have about 22-25 FPS with my 6800GT over Sevastopol at almost all set to high.

PCI Express and PCI are not the same and PCI-Express cards are not supported by your current mother board. If you are going to by PCI-E card, you have to replace your MB as well or you can just buy AGP version of any nvidia card, it's still a little bit faster than PCI-E. Anyway, video-card is not the only thing that makes LockOn run faster, pay attention to your CPU and RAM to make sure your system is well balanced.

[Alfa]

Hi all, i am planning on buying a new video card because im tired of running lock-on on 15fps with everything set to low. I was looking at an affordable nvidia 6600 gt pci-express 128mb card and i was wondering if any of you have it, how many fps are u getting with it at high settings?

Please HELP me and post some replies. Thank you.

 

Hi,

 

I am using a 6600GT (PCI-E) with 128 mb DDR3 - and it is very fast! :D

 

It is very difficult to give out FPS counts and make them worthwhile for others to base their decision on - partially because the frame count isnt solely down to the nature of your videocard - your main processing power also has alot to do with it - and partially because in order to make comparisons you need to compare performance at the exact same game settings.

 

However, with my system(P4 3.4GHz with 1 GB of ram), most settings maxed except water(medium) and view range(medium) and both AA and AF set to 4x, I get anywhere between 60 to 100 fps depending on whether I fly over land or sea(highest) - the lowest I have seen it drop was to 34, but it normally stays above 50.

 

Also which one is better the 6600 256mb or the 6600 GT 128 mb?

 

You should definately go for the GT version - it is much faster, while the extra ram with the other version makes little or no actual difference.

 

And finally , to run a pci-express card the only thing you need is a pci slot right?. Or does my motherboard has to be pci-express compatible? I have an ASUS AGP 8x motherboard with 6 pci slots. And my current video card is an Nvidia FX 5200 128 AGP 8X.

 

Ouch! - I should have read all of your post before starting to reply.

 

Yes you need a motherboard with a PCI-Express slot(or two if you contemplate a SLI solution). If your current videocard is an AGP card, then you wont be able to use a PCI-E type card unless you change your motherboard. However, you can get the 6600GT card in AGP as well - it is a little slower than the PCI-E version, but it will definately provide a huge improvement over your current card.

 

However, as mentioned earlier, how much performance gain you can expect also depends on the rest of your system - CPU, amount of RAM etc....what are your system specs?

 

- JJ.

[SuperKungFu]

If you get the 6600 series...you still can't max out everything. I suggest bump it up alittle and get the 6800GT.

[Alfa]

Evilgun,

 

A little quicker on the reply there :D

 

However,

 

If you are going to by PCI-E card, you have to replace your MB as well or you can just buy AGP version of any nvidia card, it's still a little bit faster than PCI-E.

 

Other way around - the PCI-E version is faster than the corresponding AGP version ;) .

 

- JJ.

[Kovy]

For lockon, I would pick a 256 Mb over a 128 Mb even if the memory of the 256 Mb is a bit slower :)

[Guest Cali]

Hi all, i am planning on buying a new video card because im tired of running lock-on on 15fps with everything set to low. I was looking at an affordable nvidia 6600 gt pci-express 128mb card and i was wondering if any of you have it, how many fps are u getting with it at high settings? Also which one is better the 6600 256mb or the 6600 GT 128 mb?

And finally , to run a pci-express card the only thing you need is a pci slot right?. Or does my motherboard has to be pci-express compatible? I have an ASUS AGP 8x motherboard with 6 pci slots. And my current video card is an Nvidia FX 5200 128 AGP 8X.

 

Please HELP me and post some replies. Thank you.

 

What does the rest of your computer look like?(specs)

[amagad]

My comp spec are: Asus motherboard P4 2.4 Ghz, 1G DDR Ram, Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128mb AGP 8X.

 

 

And thanks for helping me out.

[amagad]

Ohh also based on wath you guys recommended me i still have the dought of which one will be better the 6600 GT 128 or the 6600 256? For the moment I cant afford a 6800GT so i will have to decide on one of this two. The AGP version.

 

 

P4 2.4 Ghz, 1GB DDR, GeForce FX 5200 128mb AGP 8X, CH throttle,pedals,flightstick, trackIR 3.

[Joe]

I'd go with the 128MB 6600GT.

[Ice]

Radeon X850XT was my choice

[2IAEFulcrumbg]

Sapphire Radeon X800PRO 256MB DDR3 AGP X8 is my recommendation !

Why ? Because it is the best , that's why ! Picture quality is amazing ATI always is step forward with the picture quality, and this is something veeeery important for LOCKON !

 

ATI Range

---------

X800 PRO

12 Pixel pipes :o(

475mhz core gpu :O)

256mb ddr3 @ 900mhz :O|

 

X800 XT

16 Pixel pipes :o)

525mhz core gpu :O)

256 ddr3 @ 1120mhz :O>

 

Nvidia Range

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6800 GT

16 Pixel pipes :o)

350mhz core gpu :O<

256mb ddr3 @1000mhz :o)

 

6800 ULTRA

16 Pixel pipes :o)

400mhz core gpu :O|

256 ddr3 @ 1100mhz :O>

[169th_Moose]

I have Xtreme Nice Eye Candy with my http://www.bfgtech.com/6800GTOC.html

And verry good FPS asswell :icon_supe

[firesoldier845]

Radeon X850XT was my choice

 

Ice,

 

I'm thinking of getting X850XT or BFG 6800 Ultra - the 850XT is $100 cheaper. Just curious what processor you have, what settings and what kind of performance you get??

 

I'm probably going to pair it with a 4000+ processor or FX55. I've owned both ATI and Nvidia in the past, personally like ATIs AA\AF better but 6800 has PS 3.0 support which I really want for IL2\PF. From what I seen performance seems about the same between the two, some games faster one of them has advantage over other and vis versa.

 

I had a 6800GT AGP but just sold it to get a PCIe card. I may even just get another one those, and maybe a 2nd one later for SLI - but I ain't sold on the whole SLI concept yet.

 

So what you think of X850XT? What were you running LOMAC with before that and how much did it improve?

 

thanks

[Quirkitized]

Well, I can add some input to the thread on the frame rate I get with this system....

 

Everything on high except visible distance (medium). Water is on high, but not very high. 1280x1024*32 2xAA/8xAF.

 

DFI NF4 Ultra-D

AMD 64 3200+ Winchester 0501 @ 2.65ghz

1GB G.Skill PC4400LE @ 295fsb 9x295 2.5-4-3-7 1t

Sapphire Radeon X850XT @ 580/560

 

I wont BS ya like I see with a lot of posts regardling lomac performance and frame rate. Mudmoving, I get 15-30fps, usually around 25~fps. High air 2 air, usually 40-90fps.

 

Im pretty happy with the performance im getting...could take some SS's...

[firesoldier845]

FWIW I've been reading a lot of the reviews on firingsquad.com and they use LOMAC as a benchmark for a lot of the video cards. Without any doubt performance goes up proportionally higher with a faster CPU rather than a faster video card. For example an A64 4000+ with a 6800GT will get an average of 35.8 fps compared to A64 3800+ with a 6800 Ultra will net you only an average of 32.2 fps running the same demo and same resolution. A 4000+ with an X850XT averaged 37.3 fps whic is even faster and the X850XT costs $100 less than a 6800 Ultra. Nothing much of a difference in fps but you definitley get a bigger boost with a faster processor vs a faster video card. The only reason I mention this is I was sold on getting a 3800+ with a 6800 ULtra or X850XT Platinum but after looking at the hard numbers realized that I was wrong. I don't mean to sound like a know it all, just thought these numbers might help someone else in the same situation as me that is upgrading. I might suck it up and get an FX55 with a X850XT I think will be most bang for buck at the present but still might have to settle for a 4000+. Unfortunatley, I don't have an benchmarks in Lomac with an FX55 to compare.

[Guest Cali]

You guys have to look at his CPU also, it is a 2.4. If he got a super duper high end card his CPU will hold him back big time. The 6600GT would most likely be his best bet, he would need a total overhaul if he got a X800XT or 6800 Ultra.

[firesoldier845]

My buddy has a P4 2.53 with a Radeon 9800 and it runs LOMAC pretty decent on mid-range settings. Yeah the 6600 GT is probably good for his CPU.

[amagad]

Ok guys thanks for you advice. Now i manage to find a new Nvidia 6800 standard 128mb GDDR 256 bit AGP card , so with my 1GB DDR Ram and my P4 2.4 ghz , how do u think i will run Lomac 1.1 with settings on high, medium-high? Please be specific i want to know picture quality and fps.

Thank you all

[firesoldier845]

amagad,

 

When LOMAC first came out I was running on a P4 2.53 and GF4 and it was barely playable with everything on LOW. I bought a 9800 Pro and could run it decently - I had to hack the config file though and turn the LOD down which I didn't like the way it looked. Seriously your probably not going to be running much on HIGH or even Medium with even a 6800GT. I sold the P4 2.53 and video card to my friend that also play LOMAC and got a P4 3.2 and 6800GT. With that config I still had to turn down the OBJECTS to LOW and VIS to LOW. Also advanced haze ON though. It sucked without all the buildings and trees but I got smooth fps and the nice lighting effects at night. The game just needs a poweful CPU and vid card. About 3 weeks ago I bought a A64 3800+ and could run everything on HIGH except water medium and vis medium and got 30 fps even over the large towns and I was in LOMAC heaven. Too bad i had to return the 3800+ because I had some problems and locking up my computer. After going through 3 processor upgrades I would recommend at least the A64 3800+ as min to get most of the eye candy with the exception of high water and high vis. I hate to burst your bubble but the 2.4 just isn't going to cut it. I've been there and bought numerous processors and video cards for this game and really was disappointed with the performance I got with the exception of that 3800 that I had to return. Don't listen to the fan boys with their mid range computers that make outrageous claims of getting 50 fps with everything on high with just some miracle to good to be true claim. The good news is prices are coming down and you can get a decent computer on the cheap now - you don't have to spend $3000 anymore just to run LOCKon. I think that 6600 would be better than what you have, but its not going to be a miracle maker. You might be better off just saving the money and putting it towards a whole new system. I'm still shopping and waiting for the Venice core athlons to come out soon before I buy something. I'm not trying to knock down your computer amagad, I just don't want to see you waste money on a new vid card if it's not really going to make all that difference for you. I know I been there and wasted my money already.