China shocks analysts by Flight Testing 5th gen JXX Stealth fighter

[T-Bone]

Did they successfully complete the test flight yet?

[garengarch]

new vedio.enjoy:)

 

http://www.56.com/u78/v_NTc3MTY2Mjc.html

 

nice video - thanks for sharing

[Vekkinho]

Did they successfully complete the test flight yet?

 

Nope, bad weather!

[T-Bone]

Interesting place to set up a test flight base, with all the clouds and haze I am sure it is easy to conceal something like the J-20 from spy satellites. Of course a test flight would be more convenient in a desert area with little to no cloud cover like Edwards AFB.

[Vekkinho]

Interesting place to set up a test flight base, with all the clouds and haze I am sure it is easy to conceal something like the J-20 from spy satellites. Of course a test flight would be more convenient in a desert area with little to no cloud cover like Edwards AFB.

 

I don't think clouds and haze matter anymore to conceal anything!

[3GOCHN-443]

there's a big chance that the first flight is tomorrow (Jan 11th).However I have a important test tomorrow so maybe I can't translate the live feed by then, but I will try my best to deliver the latest news

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

It is a big risk to have a very first flight broadcasted live. It is either that this is not the very first flight or again, they are taking a big risk.

[T-Bone]

I would say test flying a prototype under any circumstances is dangerous. Nothing is more humiliating than a crash as we saw with the YF-22 in 1992. I'm sure with China's obsession with saving face they want to get this done right. I also wouldn't doubt that the plane has flown before and that this test flight will be a somewhat staged airshow.

[3GOCHN-443]

Jan 11th

live feed by

飞扬情报部http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1101/303761.html

 

and

 

超级大本营特派员http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1047372-1-1.html

 

time zone: GMT+8

 

weather condition of ZUUU

 

Wind from the SW (220 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT)

Visibility greater than 7 mile(s)

Sky conditions mostly clear

Temperature 42 F (6 C)

Dew Point 23 F (-5 C)

Relative Humidity 45%

Pressure (altimeter) 30.30 in. Hg (1026 hPa)

 

0936: one JL-8 double seated trainer, two J-10S double seated fighter appears. One of the J-10S loaded with some kind of pod

0938: the weather is great, refueling truck and electric power vehicle is next to J-20

0939: someone is on the reviewing stand preparing something. The engine of the J-20 is the silver color version

0940: drag parachute loaded

1024: ground crew work started

1036: pilot shows up

1045: J-20 engine started

1052: taxing to runway

1053: high speed rolling test

1101: pilot left

1103: loading drag parachute

1107: J-10S (the one with the pod) cockpit opens

1114: security guard shows up, we are on the tree again

1116: both the J-10 and J-20 started their ground crew work. Fire truck shows up

1121: J-10S pilot onboard (the one with the pod)

1122: the VIP seat is still empty

1126: J-10S engine started

1128: some police car shows up

1130: J-10S #220 taxing to the runway

1131: J-10S takes off

1135: two ambulance shows up

1145: J-10S landed

1208: B-4079 Boeing 737 landed

1221: cameraman on position

1222: B-4020 Boeing 737 landed (these two 737 belongs to the government)

1229: J-20 engine testing

1233: J-10S takeoff again

1243: J-20 engine started and testing with the cockpit opened

1247: J-20 taxing to the runway

Jan 11th 12:50:16: J-20 TAKE OFF!!!!! with J-10S as chase plane

1252: it seems it took off without activated the after burne, nobody saw the flame from the nuzzle

125X: circuling above the airfield now

1300: fly above the airfield, obviously longer and wider than the J-10S

1308: J-20 landed

1310: J-20 parking, J-10S landed

1320: A perfect first flight! Bravo to all the scientists, engineers, workers!

 

Unconfirmed information: first flight test pilot Gang·Li (李刚)

 

An interesting fact

Jan 11th 2007: Anti-satellite missile test succeeded :lol:

Jan 11th 2010: Anti-missile weapon test succeeded :lol:

Jan 11th 2011: 5th-gen fighter first flight succeeded :lol:

 

 

 

 

more pictures: http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1101/303833.html

vedio clip: http://www.56.com/u45/v_NTc3NTI4NTA.html

Edited January 11, 2011 by 3GO*CHN-443

[ArphytwoCma]

wow，that's the best news for our chinese at the begining of 2011.

Nice Job.

[ArphytwoCma]

13:08:27

J-20 landed

[topol-m]

Big thanks to 3GO*CHN-443 who provided many photos, and info about J-20`s taxi tests/preparations and its first flight.

[garengarch]

Big thanks to 3GO*CHN-443 who provided many photos, and info about J-20`s taxi tests/preparations and its first flight.

 

ditto

 

great work, thank you.

[3GOCHN-443]

Big thanks to 3GO*CHN-443 who provided many photos, and info about J-20`s taxi tests/preparations and its first flight.

 

ditto

 

great work, thank you.

 

 

 

 

it's my pleasure :)

[czarnyolek]

On last picture you can see how tiny these engines are compared to whole aircraft. I wonder about performance of this plane. Does;nt look too agile, or maybe Chinese found solution how to squize out a lot of thrust from small engine.

[RIPTIDE]

On last picture you can see how tiny these engines are compared to whole aircraft. I wonder about performance of this plane. Does;nt look too agile, or maybe Chinese found solution how to squize out a lot of thrust from small engine.

We assume its the Al-31 engine or a clone/derivative. Acceleration and Top speed won't be stellar considering the size of the beast plus draggy canards plus any restrictions on the intake. Then again some would say that its role will be long range strike and penetration.

[czarnyolek]

Took off, like it have some juice thou

[3GOCHN-443]

On last picture you can see how tiny these engines are compared to whole aircraft. I wonder about performance of this plane. Does;nt look too agile, or maybe Chinese found solution how to squize out a lot of thrust from small engine.

 

 

the 16000daN class engine WS-15 is still testing, EF2000 also used RB199 for its first flight

[czarnyolek]

the 16000daN class engine WS-15 is still testing, EF2000 also used RB199 for its first flight

 

Eurofighter took off for the first time in 1994 and production began in 2003, so what you suggest is at least few years before J-20 becomes final product. Considering financial resources China have at it disposal, its gonna happen quicker than in EF case, but still we are looking at years in front. Surely J-20 will be a factor to fasten development of other constructions, such as F-35 and pak-fa, but future only will show if they all at the sme level of technology, or just look V-th gen.

[3GOCHN-443]

Eurofighter took off for the first time in 1994 and production began in 2003, so what you suggest is at least few years before J-20 becomes final product. Considering financial resources China have at it disposal, its gonna happen quicker than in EF case, but still we are looking at years in front. Surely J-20 will be a factor to fasten development of other constructions, such as F-35 and pak-fa, but future only will show if they all at the sme level of technology, or just look V-th gen.

 

 

Yep, first flight is just a milestone. To be honest, it took USA 15 years form the first flight of YF-22 to F-22A achieves IOC, I won't expect China goes any faster than USA. Although I hope J-20 can achievs IOC by the year 2018, cause according to the latest timetable, WS-15 engine can be operated about in 5 or 6 years, and PL-21 long range missile can catch up with the plane.(PL-10 short range missile is already operational)

Edited January 11, 2011 by 3GO*CHN-443

[JimMack]

This week's Jane's Defence Weekly had a full page article, headed "Russian experts sceptical about China's new J-20"

[Pilotasso]

Chinas plane clearly reflect a completely different filosophy than Russians and probably requirments too, what that is exactly we still dont know, although plausible hypothesis has been placed on this thread.

 

I say Chinas own low RCS version of the strike eagle. The next stealth project the chinese are working on is alegelly a defense fighter.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Jan 11th

1252: it seems it took off without activated the after burne, nobody saw the flame from the nuzzle

Take off profile seemed to be very conservative, thus no need for afterburners. I assume the airplane was nor fully fueled up either.

[Groove]

Congratulations to the chinese!

[Cali]

Take off profile seemed to be very conservative, thus no need for afterburners. I assume the airplane was nor fully fueled up either.

 

I would say the same thing. On these test flights they don't want the jet fully fueled up. Another thing is these flights are the normal flights and don't last as long, thus no need to fully fuel it up.