Guest ruggbutt Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 What's going on is that people are using these SF cracks to disable your drive and fire the game thru an ISO. It fools SF into thinking that the check was done. While those cracks are available I doubt that any regarding the downloaded version will be forthcoming. As long as I'm able to reinstall my game w/out there being a major issue I can live w/the activations and the downloaded version.
Pilotasso Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 What's going on is that people are using these SF cracks to disable your drive and fire the game thru an ISO. It fools SF into thinking that the check was done. While those cracks are available I doubt that any regarding the downloaded version will be forthcoming. Im afraid its not that simple, the executable in the downloaded version seeks for starforce dll's in the game, the executable in the CD instead of doing this checks the CD. IT DOENST CARE FOR PROTECTION DLL FILES, much less its cracked version. So a crack for CD version might work for downloaded version as well. How ED didnt think of this before, too much work for activations for nothing, unless Im mistaken so correct me. .
bflagg Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Nowhere is a law which says, that you must have the possibilty to make a copy. So no rights are violated. Actually here in the US, you are wrong.. but as I said.. I can live with this. The premise is simple: A customer purchases a license. If the media goes bad...Will the software maker provide a replacement? - No - So backups are allowed here. There is no expiration date for licensed for software. (YET!) A user does not have the right to break the protection scheme either... So like most laws , there is conflict where ever money is involved when the customer gets the advantage. ...anyway.. I don't want to get into a pissing contest over this.... Thanks, Brett
Alex979 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I placed my order through simware today and pay'd with Visa...not paypal! Yesssss, finally dammit! Good call with selling of the cd version ed! :beer: Cheers!
schimmel Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Actually here in the US, you are wrong.. but as I said.. I can live with this. The premise is simple: A customer purchases a license. If the media goes bad...Will the software maker provide a replacement? - No - So backups are allowed here. There is no expiration date for licensed for software. (YET!) To be allowed != to have a right. F.ex. you are allowed to work, but you have no right to work in our western societies. You are allowed to make a copy, but you have no right to make a copy. If it's true that this is a violation of your rights, you could take ED into court, which IMO is not possible.
coldcrew Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 software 101: you don't buy software you license it. Any rights related to that software are to the developer only. You have no right to copy, distribute, modify etc unless the developer gives you express permission to do so. The only issue is whether the terms are fair.
Prophet_169th Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 software 101: you don't buy software you license it. Any rights related to that software are to the developer only. You have no right to copy, distribute, modify etc unless the developer gives you express permission to do so. The only issue is whether the terms are fair. From what I understand, it is correct that in the US, if a manufacturer doesnt provide replacement media when damaged, then the consumer has the right to copy it. And you dont have the right to copy for the purpose of distribution, you do have the right to back it up though.
Prophet_169th Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 ************ Deleted by Moderator ************ Prophet, I gave rekoal hell for posting that link and then you go re-posting it in the same damn thread?! You just got yourself banned. - JJ.
bflagg Posted April 19, 2005 Posted April 19, 2005 To be allowed != to have a right. F.ex. you are allowed to work, but you have no right to work in our western societies. You are allowed to make a copy, but you have no right to make a copy. If it's true that this is a violation of your rights, you could take ED into court, which IMO is not possible. Schimmel, like I said. this issue has been beaten to death on this forum (amongst others) and I don't want to get into a pissing contest. Please review US law for your own couriosity. This should get you started. Here is the bill signed into law 12/1/1990 by then President Bush (the Dad). Document at http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html#backup and of course the DCMA (section 404) ((it's a pdf)) (this section talks about transferring to a different format if the current format becomes obsolete or no longer in use) Thanks, Brett
Stormin Posted April 19, 2005 Posted April 19, 2005 http://lockon.ru/index.php?scr=news&news_sid=329&lang=en&end_pos=3 and due to what this says about having it in the cd drive at all times, i find this unfair to the people who downloaded it because we can only install it to a number of computers, but the cd version will be able to install to many computers? so how is this fair? a person could just make a back up and be able to have two pc's running the same cd! so how are you going to compensate for the user who have downloaded it? give them unlimited installs? release a patch to remove star force? rekoal Boo hoo. Life is so unfair.
rekoal Posted April 19, 2005 Author Posted April 19, 2005 Prophet_169th i would remove that link, i posted that and got IN BIG TROUBLE rekoal
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