Lange_666 Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 (edited) Having used both ATI and nVidia videocards over the years (and 3Dfx century's ago), i found ATI to deliver the best general image quality, certainly when it comes down to shimmering. This is only my opinion and i'm not willing to start an ATI vs nVidia discussion. Both have their pro's and con's and the last time i made the change from ATI to nVidia is because i had flickering black triangles in certain sims (FSX and LockOn) when sitting on the runway. By switching to nVidia, these problems got solved but i got shimmering in return. When i returned to nVidia i directly remembered why i made the switch to ATI before. The difference in shimmering on both brands was hugh. ATI had delivered as good as no shimmering at all while nVidia shimmered the hell out of my display, at some settings so bad that i was affraid that my monitor would shake off of my desk...:lol: By playing around with the card settings (AA, AF etc...) i could eliminate most of this shimmering and get a decent image quality. - LockOn FC1.x is a good example. Shimmers like hell on default settings but with some "advanced" settings, 90% of the shimmering is gone. - In FSX on the other hand, i can reduce around 50% of the shimmering but at least one can see the difference to standard and advanced settings. Also, i could eliminate more shimmer under XP then i can under Windows 7. - Same for Black Shark, i could never reduce the shimmering to an acceptable level and got stuck at around 50% (always compared to the standard game settings). - In LockOn FC2.0 i can't eliminate non of the shimmering whatsoever. I tried about every setting, single and combined i could make (and that are a lot of possiblity's) but never i saw a gain in image quality at all. None!! Same goes for the jaggies on the edges, almost non present in FC1.x after teweaking the settings, always clearly present in FC2.0 no matter what setting i use. Now i'm still using older drivers (182.50) which are the only ones to solve another problem but i tried a few and also the latest (197.13) without any succes. Even with 197.13, none of the shimmering went away. In fact, even with these latest drivers, i see no difference at all, on whatever setting, or combined setting, i try. Something ain't working correctly but i don't know what, i've run out of my bag of solutions. Question: Is there anyone else outhere who has/had the same experience and got it fixed? If yes, how? PS: If not, i'm thinking of making the switch to ATI again (i'm almost at the end of this setup anyway: E6600 dual core CPU with 4GB Ram + nVidia 8800 GTS 640 MB Ram) but i did read that there are still quite some issues with their 5xxx series of cards (i'm eyeballing an 5870) so i've put the upgrade on hold for the moment. Edited April 8, 2010 by Lange_666 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Lange_666 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Posted April 10, 2010 Bump... Either nobody has shimmering with a nVidia card (or even ATI) or nobody got it fixed? But in this threath: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=52062 on page 2 i read: You know, whats even more strange I have noticed.....It seems that AA has no effect in this game no matter what I set it to in the NV control panel. I can set it to 2x or 16xQ and it looks the same....still jagged as ever. I'm not sure if maybe this has something to do with it? Not sure, just wish I could figure it out. Thanks again, still trying away..... Different card, different setup but same problem so... Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
EtherealN Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 AA works perfectly for me - I run at 8x for both AA and AF through tyhe nVidia panel. Are you sure you have pointed the settings to the right file? simulator.exe is the one you want to point to. Might also ensure that it's set to actually override the application setting. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Wolf Rider Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 for building cluster shimmer... with an nVidia card try setting: Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias to Clamp City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
Thx1137 Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 Having the game full screen but with Full Screen unchecked doesn't let me fix shimmering or jaggies. Make sure you have Full Screen checked. Most of the nvidia settings on my 275 card don't have any effect unless I do that.
mikey Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 If the nv control panel doesn't work for you, you should try out nHancer. I've got 99 problems but my Ekran ain't one
Lange_666 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) Are you sure you have pointed the settings to the right file? simulator.exe is the one you want to point to. :cry: ............:doh:.............:music_whistling: Now we can...:joystick: and also :pilotfly: Thx man!! (and to the others to but this is the one that actualy helped... feeling a bit stupid). Pointed it to the launcher.exe instead. Edited April 10, 2010 by Lange_666 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
joker68 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 - In LockOn FC2.0 i can't eliminate non of the shimmering whatsoever. I tried about every setting, single and combined i could make (and that are a lot of possiblity's) but never i saw a gain in image quality at all. None!! Same goes for the jaggies on the edges, almost non present in FC1.x after teweaking the settings, always clearly present in FC2.0 no matter what setting i use. This is happening to me using an HD5850 (bought 2 days ago, still no fun). I had an 9800GTX+ before, with no shimmering at all. Tried every possible combination in Catalyst 10.6... if you can point me some tips on making this ATI work without shimmering, I would appreciate. Missing my nVidia. :mad:
luckybob9 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 It might be related to the cloud shadows. It always seems to point to that. Try this modman pack: http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules/Downloads/fileuploads/NoCloudShadows.zip Nevada map contributer EDM Modeling tools FAQ: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1418067&postcount=1 Seo libh a chairde is chanadh liom. Líonaigí'n oíche le greann is le spórt. Seo sláinte na gcarad atá imithe uainn. Mar cheo an tsléibhe uaine, iad imithe go deo
joker68 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 It might be related to the cloud shadows. It always seems to point to that. Try this modman pack: http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules/Downloads/fileuploads/NoCloudShadows.zip Thanks luckybob9, but unfortunately that is not the case. I've already tried that. This mod seems to solve the "mountain flickering" problem. Unfortunately, it doesn't help with the cities looking like an ant's armada.
luckybob9 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 oh. look here: same problem someone else is having: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=945914 Nevada map contributer EDM Modeling tools FAQ: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1418067&postcount=1 Seo libh a chairde is chanadh liom. Líonaigí'n oíche le greann is le spórt. Seo sláinte na gcarad atá imithe uainn. Mar cheo an tsléibhe uaine, iad imithe go deo
joker68 Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Installed the driver version 10.5 and the shimmering is gone! YAY!
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