Assuming my processor is the bottleneck, what is the one I should get?

[S.h.r.i.k.e.]

I did the tweaks from the tweak guide and have messed with a few settings. BS is fairly smooth now. However, I get stutters a little too often. That kills the whole immersion factor for me. So what processor would I have to upgrade to in order to notice a decent improvment in Black Shark FPS and smoothness?

 

I'm running an Athlon II X2 2.9GHz overclocked to 3.2GHz, 4GB DDR3 RAM, ATI HD 4670 1GB, on Win7 64.

 

The mother board is socket AM3, so I would need to keep that socket.

[Luke.S]

whats your budget?

 

If you can afford it this.

 

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2428

[MTFDarkEagle]

Yes, I agree with Luke. If however that processor is slightly over your budget, get a 955. I've got the 955 my self :-) Its a very good processor and very easy to overclock. I switched from an amd athlon x2 7750 to the 955, and MY GOD the difference was enourmous! The difference is very large.

Hope this helps

[ShadowVonChadwick]

I went from a similar Athlon x2 CPU to a Phenom ll x3 720BE with 8Mg Cache, similar clock and found good fps benefit and it was cheep. And it OCed well from 2.8 to 3.3/3.5 summer/winter

 

Go for any Phenom ll with 7/8 Mg level 3 cache.

eg:

PHENOM II X2 555/DUAL-CORE/3.2GHz/7MB CACHE/BLK ED

or

PHENOM II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition CPU, 3.2GHz (125W), 8MB Cache.

 

Cheers you wont be dissapointed............Shad

 

PS. Your GPU is minimal so dont tax it with to much AA (helps with stutter)

Edited April 25, 2010 by ShadowVonChadwick

[Bucic]

See my sig for my Overclocking results :)

[S.h.r.i.k.e.]

I do not believe I can swing enough money for the Phenom ii X4. However, if you guys think I will see enough of an improvement going to the Phenom II X2 555 3.2 GHz, then I could do that.

 

But to clarify, even though my Athlon II X2 is overclocked to 3.2GHz and that Phenom is the same 3.2GHz, I will still see a significant improvement? Is the increased CPU cache amount what really matters to Black Shark?

[sage0030]

I did the tweaks from the tweak guide and have messed with a few settings. BS is fairly smooth now. However, I get stutters a little too often. That kills the whole immersion factor for me. So what processor would I have to upgrade to in order to notice a decent improvment in Black Shark FPS and smoothness?

 

I'm running an Athlon II X2 2.9GHz overclocked to 3.2GHz, 4GB DDR3 RAM, ATI HD 4670 1GB, on Win7 64.

 

The mother board is socket AM3, so I would need to keep that socket.

 

 

get intel dont use amd if you want the best performance, :pilotfly:sad as it may seem amd is not best for performance,

[Mustang]

get intel dont use amd if you want the best performance, :pilotfly:sad as it may seem amd is not best for performance,

 

I can vouch for that, i've recently gone from my old trusty AMD rig to an Intel E7500 CPU system and my framerates are amazing :thumbup:

[EtherealN]

AMD still does good on performance for the dollar though. ;)

[Bucic]

But to clarify, even though my Athlon II X2 is overclocked to 3.2GHz and that Phenom is the same 3.2GHz, I will still see a significant improvement? Is the increased CPU cache amount what really matters to Black Shark?

I'm not sure I understood you correctly. Going from 3.2 GHz to 3.2 GHz of "more advanced" CPU will not provide a significant improvement. You'd probably get more significant improvement from overclocking 3.2->4 GHz. That's why 50+ FPS are not rare on my system equipped with just GF9600. Oh, and forget about quad cores.

 

One more thing. There is already a dedicated forum section on the subject -> PC Hardware. You'd probably get more info there in an hour than you'll get here in two days.

[sage0030]

I'm not sure I understood you correctly. Going from 3.2 GHz to 3.2 GHz of "more advanced" CPU will not provide a significant improvement. You'd probably get more significant improvement from overclocking 3.2->4 GHz. That's why 50+ FPS are not rare on my system equipped with just GF9600. Oh, and forget about quad cores.

 

One more thing. There is already a dedicated forum section on the subject -> PC Hardware. You'd probably get more info there in an hour than you'll get here in two days.

 

 

your right it has nothing to do with the freq, its the type of cpu, its like compairing a camel to a horse, horse+ intel camel=amd dont get me wrong amd is good, I have both machines, intel is allways better for performance, im sure you dont want to change cpu types, overclocking your not going to see diffrence as far as naked eye is converned,

[EtherealN]

Not "always", rather "at present". They tend to switch places with a couple years interval. :P

[sage0030]

Not "always", rather "at present". They tend to switch places with a couple years interval. :P

 

 

I agree with that, I just built an intel machine, i7 920 and amd phenom 2x4 amd is nothing compaired to intel running any simulation,

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I have pretty good luck with Intel i7-920, OC to 4.0 GHz. What was really interesting, percentagewise, FPS increased as much as OC percentage.

See the following thread:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51152

[dburne]

I have my I7 920 running just over 4 ghz as well, I must say BS looks great on this system.

[Chillspider]

My comp isn't to well either I need to do something to it everything runs slow in decent settings and ok with low. Im running 64bit Vista 6GB 800 Mhz Ram Intel Q9650 @ 3.0Ghz 2xGeforce 9800 GT 512 MB each. I just wish it would runs games in better settings than low.

[Justice_AA]

I have an Asus destop with an i7 (factory overclocked but no more) and it runs any game so far without a hickup, the 9gb of ram helps too. $1200 online at BB

[ZQuickSilverZ]

I don't know what your issue is. I run Blackshark with a Pentium 3 933 and 512MB of ram. I use a 7300LE graphics card and Blackshark runs smooth as butter on all the highest settings.

[Bucic]

I don't know what your issue is. I run Blackshark with a Pentium 3 933 and 512MB of ram. I use a 7300LE graphics card and Blackshark runs smooth as butter on all the highest settings.

"Because human eyes don't see more than 20 FPS."

True or false? :D

[ShadowVonChadwick]

Read his post.

 

He has a Scocket AM3 motherboard that he cant afford to replace.

 

I had an Athlon 64 x2 3.1 @ 3.4/3.5, replaced it with Phenom ll x3 2.8Ghz.

 

On XP Lomac saw a 20% fps increase before I did anything else like overclock or switching to Win7.

 

I went from 3.4 to 2.8 GigHz

[ShadowVonChadwick]

overclocking your not going to see diffrence as far as naked eye is converned,

 

Unless one has a really crap GPU overclocking the CPU will in my experiance always gives a close to linear boast to fps in the LockOn/BS engine.

[ShadowVonChadwick]

I do not believe I can swing enough money for the Phenom ii X4. However, if you guys think I will see enough of an improvement going to the Phenom II X2 555 3.2 GHz, then I could do that.

 

But to clarify, even though my Athlon II X2 is overclocked to 3.2GHz and that Phenom is the same 3.2GHz, I will still see a significant improvement? Is the increased CPU cache amount what really matters to Black Shark?

 

Different internal architecture & each core has its normal L1 cache with 512k of Level 2 cache AND then it has 6Mg of shared level 3 Cache. Black Edition CPUs are multiplyer unlocked & OC well on standard Heatsink.

 

You will see a difference I did.

[digital_steve]

Different internal architecture & each core has its normal L1 cache with 512k of Level 2 cache AND then it has 6Mg of shared level 3 Cache. Black Edition CPUs are multiplyer unlocked & OC well on standard Heatsink.

 

You will see a difference I did.

 

What sort of OC result did you get with the standard heatsink?

[ZQuickSilverZ]

LOL yeah Bucic, I could hardly keep a straight face typing that. More like 20 frames a minute HA HA HA.

[Bucic]

LOL yeah Bucic, I could hardly keep a straight face typing that. More like 20 frames a minute HA HA HA.

Don't laugh. People claimining that they don't see more than 25 FPS. Or even ~20. Poor bustards :D

 

Anyway, if I can pull out 30 to 75 FPS (my forced FPS limit) in a simple SP mission (like Patrol) using just GF9600 then I think it speaks for itself. To answear the poster question - if you are really short on cash you get a C2D similar to mine + Scythe Katana cooler for ~$25 + PS Modecom Feel 400 for ~$35 and you give it hell.

 

If you have a bit more cash, let's say twice as much, I guess you should talk to Core i5/i7 guys like =4c= Hajduk Veljko.

 

One more thing. If you're getting C2D class rig don't spend a damn brocken nickle on "better RAM". Get an average priced RAM with the clock just high enough not to get in your way during OC. Ask i5/i7 OC-ed guys what FSB freq they are using and don't buy an over the top RAM. Don't even go for dual channel - another marketing bogus.