Deadman's A-10 C Cockpit Build

[agrasyuk]

correct. from what i understand Gadroc releasing these as open source plans which means you make or order your own PCB and components and then assemble the devices itself.number of these then will be connected to PC via Arduino board. and if i understand it right all inputs and outputs connected will be natively exposed in Helios.

[whartsell]

I'm sorry I missed your earlier posts. When I get in front of my PC I'll give a more thorough response to your questions.

[whartsell]

First off I just want to say that Im not the creator of EOS I'm an early adopter that has been working with Gadroc (the creator of EOS and Helios) and Flim (VrSimpits) on prototyping and integration of their designs.

 

With regards to EOS vs the Brydling boards there are some very big differences. EOS is designed to work with Helios (this means anything you can do in helios like lua scripting is supported) wheras Brydlings boards are directX input devices only. They do not support outputs,lcds,servos,etc

 

EOS is an open source software/hardware solution for integrating various inputs/outputs to Helios and anything Helios can talk to. EOS is based on the Arduino IDE and their reference hardware.

 

 

 

EOS as it sits right now is a set of Arduino libraries that handle all the dirty work of implementing communication protocols, inputs and outputs programming so all you need to do is add the library to your arduino sketch and implement the features you want.

 

EOS will also have reference boards for all the panels in the A-10c. The example you see in the pics in earlier posts is the first board design. Its a Generic Panel board that has the most common features for most of the panels. Some panels like the CDU and some radios and such have special requirements and will have their own reference boards designed. You can also create your own boards or even run it on a normal arduino. Before i got in touch with Gadroc I tested everything on a breadboard with about $10 in parts. I then used the el cheapo radio shack solderable bread boards to make my first EOS boards. (this is actually more expensive than buying the PCBs that will be available in the future, and quicker to build too)

 

EOS also has stepper motors,servos and LCDs on the horizon as well.

 

Being an open source project all designs will be made available to the public for little or no cost. you will be free to use it on any compatible hardware you want.

 

Some components will be available for purchase as well (for examples PCB and any other hard to procure or fabricate pieces).

 

EOS allows boards to be connected to single bus through a bus controller (Arduino leonardo board with a shield for the RS485) to your pc. This means that you will not have a ton of connections to your PC. In my pit Im running 3 EOS busses so I only have 3 USB connections to the pc. This will allot me to run about 36 boards if need be.

 

 

Sorry if this post is a bit of a ramble but my free time has been limited due to a new baby in the house. When i have time to sit down and get my thoughts together ill write a proper writeup on EOS. I have written a simple introduction to EOS and the link is in my sig

[Deadman]

Ok interesting points you have made. But with Gadroc away from the form and Flim sit down can you tell me how many panels or hook ups are done? What is left to do in making the EOS system complete?

[Gadroc]

I'm still here just slower to respond than before. I've switched over all my panels to EOS boards. They are currently driving LEDs, Backlights, Digital Switch Inputs, Analog Inputs, Servos and Steppers via Helios.

 

I'm currently running the following on it:

 

1) Landing Gear Panel (including Flaps Gauge)

2) AHCP Panel

3) VVI

4) CMSP

 

In progress:

1) MFD Bezels

2) UFC

3) CDU

 

Next Up

1) Radio panels.

 

I've got a few weeks off starting next monday so I should have be posting quite a few updates.

[Deadman]

Very interesting thanks for the update I would really be interested in this type of system. You should get a pair of long johns (it is below 0 here )and come up north and check out the pit it could be a win win

[Deadman]

Well here is a bit of an up date the top rails gave me fits until now

I will need to go back and tweak some of the bend radius, and place screws, washer, and nuts.

Still to do list not in order

the frame and ejection seat rails

ejection seat

Then outer shell

windscreen canopy

Windshield Anti-Reflection shield

( the black cover around the HUD)

 

[Deadman]

Found this a great pic of an A-10 trainer being worked on

https://www.link.com/media/gallery/AMI_A10_Production_Testing.jpg

[MacFevre]

That is a very beautiful thing. I'm sure yours will shortly look very similar. I too am anxious for the EOS system.

[cichlidfan]

That is a nice pic.

[Deadman]

Here are a couple more notice the rudder pedals just sitting on a shelf

I would give a few things for one of the Main instrument panels as well

https://www.link.com/media/gallery/AMI_Production_002.jpg

behind the man's head

 

And an old school A-10A

https://www.link.com/media/gallery/AMI_Production_015.jpg

[cichlidfan]

Here are a couple more notice the rudder pedals just sitting on a shelf

I would give a few things for one of the Main instrument panels as well

https://www.link.com/media/gallery/AMI_Production_002.jpg

behind the man's head

 

Now that would be a cool IT job!!

[Deadman]

Hell I would sweep floor to play in that shop :)

[cichlidfan]

Hell I would sweep floor to play in that shop :)

 

Good point! :thumbup:

[Hansolo]

Hell I would sweep floor to play in that shop :)

 

+ 1 :lol:

 

nice find by the way

 

Cheers

Hans

[moken]

Hi DM,

 

May I ask you that based on your reference A-10C need 2 units 1TL62-7 switch but when I got those switch it may different from original A-10C used, please see following attached photo. Are you sure 1TL62-7 is original for A-10C?

 

However, this 1TL62-7 switch is also look good.

 

 

Edited December 21, 2013 by moken

[Deadman]

All of the switches I have listed are based on switches and panels I have collected.Except for the 1TL48-7 that was posted by Direwolf5 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1404726&postcount=190

 

The switch should go (This is just off the top of my head you did not bother to reference any thing) to the to the the seat height control switch.

 

I have searched my thread and not have found any listing for the 1TL62-7

Perhaps you could give me the original context. And why you don't think it may go to the A-10C

Edited December 21, 2013 by Deadman

[Deadman]

Does and one have a good profile picture of the warthog stick and base with measurements? I am working it in to a mount system that will replicate the real stick.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Deadman

[Direwolf5]

Deadman I think you are correct, from looking at the only cockpit picture that survived my hard drive crash. The 1TL62-7 looks like the seat adjust switch, and from looking at the illustrations in my copy of the latest manual T.O. 1A-10C-1,Dated 10 November 2008, Change 10, 2 April 2012, I think the second would be for the Pitot Heat switch on the environmental panel. However I have seen pictures where the Pitot switch has a square head on it.

 

Direwolf5

[Hansolo]

Does and one have a good profile picture of the warthog stick and base with measurements? I am working it in to a mount system that will replicate the real stick.

 

Hello DM,

 

I am not sure it's what you need but I made a few measurements and a few pictures. Measurements may ba a little of since it is in metric :music_whistling:

link deleted due to missing measurements

 

Mine is dismounted and put on a wooden pedestal. The grey part is just the homemade extension. Let me know if you can use it or require something else.

 

Cheers

Hans

Edited December 22, 2013 by Hansolo
link deleted due to missing measurements

[Deadman]

Thanks HMA after 23 years living out side the USA I am good with metric :)

The diagram is good what i need still is the measurement from the base to the pivot point of the stick and base for the height placement in the mount so that the Warthog and extension will act like a real stick Thanks DM

Edited December 21, 2013 by Deadman

[Hansolo]

Nice then I won't worry about having to try an learn imperial :thumbup:

 

All the best

Hans

[Deadman]

it can be confusing I just edited my previous post I am looking for where the pivot point is on the stick:thumbup:

[Hansolo]

Hi DM,

 

Ok I hope I got your point now. Have updated drawing with measurements for the center of the ball arround which the stick rotates. They are not 100% accurate as I did not take my WH completely apart. Only enought so that the ball became visible. Won't do that until I got some grease for it:music_whistling:

If it still not what you look for give me a hint using pictures from this thread:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1042541&postcount=1

 

Cheers

Hans

Warthog joystick base.pdf

[MacFevre]

DM did you get my information on the Warthog? Was it sufficient, or did you need more? Also, not sure what that 1TL62-7 came from, but it looks a bit like the switch that blows the fire suppression for the engine fire system. Don't know where that number came from, though.