Thrustmaster Warthog = WOW!

[ronht]

Received my Warthog yesterday and am very impressed with the over-all quality.

 

I was the creator of the old Saitek Help web site years ago and have had experience with both the Saitek X36 HOTAS and more recently the Logitec G940. Both are good entry level controllers but limited by their software and other issues.

 

My main setup has been a Uber/Cubby modified Cougar with Hall sensors all around for the last couple of years, which has been a great set-up - solid as a rock, but I have to say that this latest product from Thrustmaster is hands-down the best out-of-the-box HOTAS equipment I have ever experienced in all my years of gaming simulations. Thrustmaster has really out-done themselves.

 

Enough can't be said about the Plug-and-Play feature this HOTAS has with DCS A-10. Following the instructions here in another thread on how to load the Warthog lua files in the game options made for the quickest setup I've ever experienced and it certainly adds an enormous amount of emersion to an already great DCS A-10 simulation.

 

I don't have a lot to add - over what others have already stated here, but I took a few minutes to set up the Warthog in BlackShark today and the results are equally as stunning. The resolution and precision of the Warthog is adding a whole new feel and increased controllability to the KA-50.

 

Anyway, for those looking forward to the receipt of you new Warthogs, I can tell you that you are NOT going to be disappointed! This is one fantastic kit.

 

Enjoy

 

ronht

[designoner01]

yea, i just got mine in.. the thing feels like a TANK.. so far i like.. yet to try out the software...

[Echonomix]

Awesome! Mine should be in this Monday! Good idea trying it out in blackshark. I think I'll give that a try too.

[Ragtag]

good to hear because i ordered mine today :)

[WarriorX]

Thanks for the review ronht.

 

Regarding the thread you mentioned about how to load the Warthog lua files in the game options, I did a search for "Warthog lua" in the Input and Output forum and could not find it. Do you remember the thread title by chance?

[ronht]

It was posted in the Beta Input Controller forum - Here's what it said -

 

 

Launch DCS:A10c, go to options / controls. Click on any line in the column "joystick HOTAS Warthog", then click "LOAD PROFILE" and navigate to " /config/input/Aircrafts/A-10C/Joystick". Select "joystick - hotas warthog.lua" in file list, click OK.

 

Do the same thing for the throttle: Click any line in the column "throttle Hotas Warthog", click "LOAD PROFILE", the navigate to " /config/input/Aircrafts/A-10C/Joystick" and select "throttle - hotas warthog.lua", click OK.

 

The only thing you have to do after that is to re-map the POV hat on the joystick to the trim.

 

One last thing, the S4 pinky lever on the joystick isn't mapped to anything. I assigned it to the brakes and it works great. Also, that button doesn't push as hard as the others, I thought for a minute I might have a defective stick, but it works just fine.

 

Hope that helps.

Edited November 6, 2010 by ronht

[kylania]

It's real simple WarriorX, just click on an entry in the Joystick column. Click Load Profile, find the joystick - hotas warthog.lua under Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C Beta\Config\Input\Aircrafts\A-10C\joystick and double click on it. That'll fill the Joystick commands.

 

Do the same for the Throttle by clicking on a value in the Throttle column and find the throttle - hotas warthog.lua file, load that. That will fill your Throttle settings.

 

Remember to click a value in the proper column first or else you might overwrite your keycommands or something.

 

Edit:

 

I mapped the pinky switch to Wheel brake too. I also mapped the Left Throttle button to Toggle Landing Gear instead of the duplicated Autopilot toggle.

Edited November 6, 2010 by kylania
Sniped! heh Teach me to open a thread, then go cook dinner!

[Echonomix]

It's real simple WarriorX, just click on an entry in the Joystick column. Click Load Profile, find the joystick - hotas warthog.lua under Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C Beta\Config\Input\Aircrafts\A-10C\joystick and double click on it. That'll fill the Joystick commands.

 

Do the same for the Throttle by clicking on a value in the Throttle column and find the throttle - hotas warthog.lua file, load that. That will fill your Throttle settings.

 

Remember to click a value in the proper column first or else you might overwrite your keycommands or something.

 

Edit:

 

I mapped the pinky switch to Wheel brake too. I also mapped the Left Throttle button to Toggle Landing Gear instead of the duplicated Autopilot toggle.

 

So DCS doesn't detect and automatically map the keys, you have to go in and open the config (.lua) file? Not a problem. I thought it was all automatic.

 

Why map wheel brake to a switch? Don't use rudder pedals?

[kylania]

Why map wheel brake to a switch? Don't use rudder pedals?

 

Nope, can't afford one anymore. :)

[slimakwielki]

I have to admit that after playing DCS A10C after 3 days using TM Warthog setup in compare to earlier ~3 weeks playing time on Saitek X52 I find it very difficult to control hog...

I had X52 setup nicely configured (with mapping as close as possible to 'as per warthog real hotas' setup) and could with ease take advantage of its wide-quick-combos access. With X52 there is also easy access to its keys/sliders/switches etc in terms of ergonomy.

I find it much un-ergonomic with TM WH now. Most of them I can't really reach it without loosing grip connection on either stick/double throttle. Weapon Release on stick is really pain in a**e now as with precise CCIP GPLD flying demands I loose stable gip so much required at that mom. On throttle operating side switches (spdbrks, boat, china) makes momentarly lost connection over throttles and often slew stick movement/repositioning.

 

Well, that's a Replica so I am not to expect covering player needs :) Just wonder wheter owners are happy with what they expected.

[Echonomix]

You'll adapt. I would the think the action of the joystick itself would be much better than the saitek action. Sure the buttons are in different places and hard to press. But do you think real world pilots that get the chance to fly the real thing quit because of the hotas? I doubt it! Give it 3 weeks and see if you get used to it.

 

I can let you know on Monday or Tuesday, whether I like it or not.

[designoner01]

i like this stick, but its going to tear my wrist apart...

[WarriorX]

Thanks for the help ronht and Kylania! I appreciate it.

Rep inbound for both of you.

Edited November 6, 2010 by WarriorX
rep edit

[James Hallows]

Good to see you around Ronht ;) Glad you're enjoying this new beast. Rather a different kettle of fish to what we've had to date! ;)

 

Cheers

 

James

[Shaman]

Following the instructions here in another thread on how to load the Warthog lua files in the game options made for the quickest setup I've ever experienced and it certainly adds an enormous amount of emersion to an already great DCS A-10 simulation.

 

Can you provide link?

[Fopeyducker]

What does loading the lua files do? All the my stuff was assigned as soon as I plugged it in. Only thing I added was center view to the CMS hat, (press).

[159th_Viper]

Can you provide link?

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1021537&postcount=23

[Shaman]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1021537&postcount=23

 

It says I don't have privileges to open this link.

[159th_Viper]

It says I don't have privileges to open this link.

 

Strange - Have you got access to the Open-Beta Forum?

 

In any event, herewith post:

 

Okay, got it running, all credits to Black.Box.1 from www.checksix-fr.com forum.

 

Here is the way to do it:

 

Launch DCS:A10c, go to options / controls. Click on any line in the column "joystick HOTAS Warthog", then click "LOAD PROFILE" and navigate to " /config/input/Aircrafts/A-10C/Joystick". Select "joystick - hotas warthog.lua" in file list, click OK.

 

Do the same thing for the throttle: Click any line in the column "throttle Hotas Warthog", click "LOAD PROFILE", the navigate to " /config/input/Aircrafts/A-10C/Joystick" and select "throttle - hotas warthog.lua", click OK.

 

Now you can do all the changes you want in button mapping.

 

Hope it works for you as it worked for me, and again, all thanks to Black.Box.1 for the correct procedure.:thumbup:

[spn]

Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas

 

For the people who live in the US, where can I get one from??????

 

Thanks

[ronht]

Good to see you around Ronht ;) Glad you're enjoying this new beast. Rather a different kettle of fish to what we've had to date! ;)

 

Cheers

 

James

 

Hey James,

 

Good to see you still around as well my friend, we've seen a lot of changes over the years haven't we?

 

This is a great piece of gear and far ahead of anything we've had to date. I haven't had time to get my head around the new TARGET software yet, I know it looks pretty, but I have to admit there's a part of me that wishes I could just use the Foxy software with this new kit.

 

There hasn't been anything that I ever needed to do that couldn't be done after burning a few brain cells experimenting in Foxy.

 

Salute

 

Ron

[Echonomix]

For the people who live in the US, where can I get one from??????

 

Thanks

 

 

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Hotas+Warthog&hl=en&cid=13514028465026527545&ei=MCHSTLHTEajswgXvg4zzDw&sa=button&ved=0CAkQgggwADgA#start=0

 

Most places are in back order right now I think.

[Succellus]

I have to admit that after playing DCS A10C after 3 days using TM Warthog setup in compare to earlier ~3 weeks playing time on Saitek X52 I find it very difficult to control hog...

I had X52 setup nicely configured (with mapping as close as possible to 'as per warthog real hotas' setup) and could with ease take advantage of its wide-quick-combos access. With X52 there is also easy access to its keys/sliders/switches etc in terms of ergonomy.

I find it much un-ergonomic with TM WH now. Most of them I can't really reach it without loosing grip connection on either stick/double throttle. Weapon Release on stick is really pain in a**e now as with precise CCIP GPLD flying demands I loose stable gip so much required at that mom. On throttle operating side switches (spdbrks, boat, china) makes momentarly lost connection over throttles and often slew stick movement/repositioning.

 

Well, that's a Replica so I am not to expect covering player needs :) Just wonder wheter owners are happy with what they expected.

 

Do you use then on desk? We have to remember they are designed, the throttle, to be near our hips, and the stick between our legs ...no pun intended.:smilewink:

[Succellus]

For the people who live in the US, where can I get one from??????

 

Thanks

 

SCsimulation have it see FLIm profile.

[59th_Bird]

I have some problem configuring TM Warthog in the game. Previuosly I didn't have trim on my stick's POV1. With in-game loaded profile it is the same. But there is a problem: when I wanted to assign trim commands for my stick's POV1, I realized that the coolie hat switch and the joystick's POV switch produce the same command: JOY BTN POV1 (or something like that, but both are the same). So, now I can not use the coolie to manage the MFCDs... Any suggestion...?