jazjar Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 O.K and this is controlled by that option that I can't remember its' name in the "gameplay" window, right? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
madyogi Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I'm using this stick about six months. I'm it's second onwer (I think). Well It's not as good as I was hoping it to be! I regret I've sold my old Saitek Aviator a bit. Yes, X52 looks cool, has a great functionality with all the buttons, macros etc, etc, and makes you think you're a great pilot - even if you're not the one. Only one thing bothers me and I would be finally thankful for a controller not suffering the CALIBRATION LOSS issue! They sad it is optical in x/y axis and it will never lose its precision. Well, they were wrong! You fly straight, trimmed and suddanly boom - your nose goes up and you do a very poor quality Pugachev Cobra, flying a crazy blender...
Frederf Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 O.K and this is controlled by that option that I can't remember its' name in the "gameplay" window, right? Yeah, "CENTRAL POSITION TRIMMER MODE" when selected is the new 'through the window' method. Deselected it's the old 'immediate' method.
topdog Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 ... Only one thing bothers me and I would be finally thankful for a controller not suffering the CALIBRATION LOSS issue! They sad it is optical in x/y axis and it will never lose its precision. Well, they were wrong! You fly straight, trimmed and suddanly boom - your nose goes up and you do a very poor quality Pugachev Cobra, flying a crazy blender... You might want to check the cable or contacts between the throttle and joystick. This usually happens when the mini-din gets loose on the joystick (I taped the cable/connection in place using electrical tape to limit this happening). [ i7 2600k 4.6GHz :: 16GB Mushkin Blackline LV :: EVGA GTX 1080ti 11GB ] [ TM Warthog / Saitek Rudder :: Oculus Rift :: Obutto cockpit :: Acer HN274H 27" 120Hz :: 3D Vision Ready ]
EtherealN Posted November 27, 2010 Posted November 27, 2010 They sad it is optical in x/y axis Optical? No joystick I've ever heard of is "optical". It does have Hall Effect sensors though, which is probably what was meant. And this does eliminate loss of "calibration" caused by potentiometers wearing out. As was mentioned though, check the wiring. No gimmick will ever remove the risk of strange things happening due to wiring getting worn, but fortunately this is amongst the simplest things with a stick to repair. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
jazjar Posted November 27, 2010 Author Posted November 27, 2010 One last thing, can you use CH pedals with the hog? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MTFDarkEagle Posted November 27, 2010 Posted November 27, 2010 If they are on a seperate USB-plug, yes. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
madyogi Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Hardware looks fine... Optical? No joystick I've ever heard of is "optical". It does have Hall Effect sensors though, which is probably what was meant. And this does eliminate loss of "calibration" caused by potentiometers wearing out. As was mentioned though, check the wiring. No gimmick will ever remove the risk of strange things happening due to wiring getting worn, but fortunately this is amongst the simplest things with a stick to repair. Yes, your right about that hall effect. Dunno, :doh:was possibly to tired or thinking about something else when writing this. BUT, do you still wish to "repair" things few months after you take them out of the box? :( Thats sad, specially if you think about the price... You might want to check the cable or contacts between the throttle and joystick. This usually happens when the mini-din gets loose on the joystick No need to tape things! I'm not the angry, hardware killer >> :joystick:. All the cabling looks and is pretty solid, the dins are fine. I'm rather a "Spare Time" pilot and not connect/disconnect it too often. Just love sims, years ago played a lot in "F16 Allied Force". The off-line, dynamic campaing still rocks and despite the poor grapihcs the sim is fine. But, I guess its off topic here...
Eldur Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 Optical? No joystick I've ever heard of is "optical". It does have Hall Effect sensors though, which is probably what was meant. And this does eliminate loss of "calibration" caused by potentiometers wearing out. Microsoft Sidewinders have optical sensors since the good old 3D Pro which was the first one ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SideWinder#3D_Pro
jazjar Posted December 3, 2010 Author Posted December 3, 2010 Just got my new hog on wednesday! Going to be setting up next week! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Yskonyn Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) Microsoft Sidewinders have optical sensors since the good old 3D Pro which was the first one ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SideWinder#3D_Pro Where does that article say the joysticks are optical? I know about optical mice, but never heard of optical joysticks, either. The only 'optical joysticks' I know are not even real joysticks: http://m.gizmodo.com/223011/samsung-sch+v960-optical-joystick-how-it-works Could you perhaps link a technical article about it describing a gaming joystick with optical sensors? Edited December 3, 2010 by Yskonyn [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
EtherealN Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 Microsoft Sidewinders have optical sensors since the good old 3D Pro which was the first one ;) The Sidewinders I have dismantled didn't. Regular potentiometers. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
topdog Posted December 4, 2010 Posted December 4, 2010 ... No need to tape things! I'm not the angry, hardware killer >> :joystick:. All the cabling looks and is pretty solid, the dins are fine. I'm rather a "Spare Time" pilot and not connect/disconnect it too often. I'd feel I'm the same but unless you have the stick and throttle fixed down, or can prevent the cable from having any hang from the socket (which is basically what my tape is reinforcing against), it does tend to work itself loose at the most inconvenient time causing that problem, and it also seems to be something that worsens with age. It's not a showstopper for me but it was a bit disappointing from a build quality aspect, and there have been many reporting the same issues with the cable connection between the two units. [ i7 2600k 4.6GHz :: 16GB Mushkin Blackline LV :: EVGA GTX 1080ti 11GB ] [ TM Warthog / Saitek Rudder :: Oculus Rift :: Obutto cockpit :: Acer HN274H 27" 120Hz :: 3D Vision Ready ]
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