dunadan Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 I have a new Warthog, and it is as awesome as has been reported by many others :joystick:, however one thing I dearly miss (unless I've missed it) is the 'shift' type button that the Saitek sticks have. It would be great if we could use one of the few unused buttons (like the pinky lever) as a shift button to handle some of the view and track IR commands that we sim pilots have to deal with that don't have real-world equivalents. I especially miss the shift-zoom feature I had programmed on my x52, where I could magnify my image for a gun pass and then zoom back out after I pulled off target while keeping my hands on the stick. I have remapped the throttle pinkie switch from a duplicate autopilot engage to track IR freeze, so I can lean forward and freeze it to get a good gunsight view on a strafing run, but that just gives me a better view of the HUD, it doesn't appear to really give me a magnified view of what I'm shooting at. So its more of a half-solution. With that in mind, I find myself staring at the gray 'INCR-DECR' lever on the right side of the throttle, and am thinking how awesome it would be to be able to map that axis to the zoom view, so I can easily zoom in and out during hostilites. We could set a 'min zoom' at one end of the axis, and a 'max zoom' at the other and adjust in between at will as the situation dictated. Of course if the Thrustmaster people are reading this and wanted to enable a simple 'shift' feature to program into the buttons, that would be great too! Maybe they already have and I just haven't gotten that far up to speed yet.
hassata Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 You can-set it as a modifier in the DCS options keys assignment window than assign whatever button to do whatever. E.G. Modifier is Pinky than Trim Hat Up is HUD Only view. It can also be done in the TH TARGET software, but I'm staying away form that because pretty much everything is doable inside DCS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frederf Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 There's an axis assignment for zoom. Should be able to assign that joystick axis to that assignment. As for max/min zoom, that's what saturation and user curves are for.
WynnTTr Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 You can't just lean forward with Trackir to zoom in? That's what I do and it's more realistic
dunadan Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 Frederf - Do you mean the 'Camera Zoom View' under the Axis Assign menu? I can see that option, however it is grayed out and unselectable (along with the other Camera View options) - the Absolute Views are mappable, but those are not what I'm looking for . . . Wynn, your question was answered in my initial post. I already do lean in, I don't feel that is necessarily more 'realistic' as I am working with a monitor view with a limited number of pixels - I know I can see items much more clearly at comparable distances than I can in game without zoom. Also, pilots are chosen for excellent eyesight, and the zoom also simulates better distance vision.
KillaALF Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Frederf - Do you mean the 'Camera Zoom View' under the Axis Assign menu? I can see that option, however it is grayed out and unselectable (along with the other Camera View options) - the Absolute Views are mappable, but those are not what I'm looking for . . . "Zoom View" is what you're looking for - it is the last item in the list.
Slammin Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I've had my Hog throttle Inc/Decr axis assigned to zoom view from day 1. Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
dunadan Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 "Zoom View" is what you're looking for - it is the last item in the list. THANK YOU! :thumbup: That is exactly it . . . I must have given up on the list when I started seeing control surface axis under the mess of view options at the top . . . all the more reason why I needed it in the first place! Time to go blow stuff up!
opeless Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Hi - I'm struggling to do exactly this. In Beta 4, I'm Adding an assignment on the "Zoom View" - but which one is the Incr-Decr? I've guessed wrongly for about 5 of the 30 options - just wondering if anyone knew exactly what the name was for that one? Thanks, Dave
Frederf Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 For keyboard command zoom I use "Zoom Out Slow" and "Zoom In Slow."
opeless Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Sorry - I probably wasn't clear. I was talking about the joystick/throttle button name. JOY_SLIDER1, etc. There's a whole slew of them that it could be, but for the hotas INCR-DECR slider - I don't know what the A10 program calls that particular axis. Any ideas?
Slammin Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 In WIn7 it's called Slider. In A10 it's called joy_slider1 Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
TAIPAN_ Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Hi Guys, Sorry to bring up a month old thread, but zooming without losing throttle control is the main thing stopping me from buying the warthog. Do you find you can zoom via the slider wheel without removing your hand from the throttle or is it too far away? Is it comfortable to be constantly zooming in and out with that, or do you just set the zoom and only change it occasionally? Have you tried it in a prop combat sim where you need to be adjusting throttle and zooming at the same time - like when shooting at someone then throttling back quickly to stay on their tail? Cheers Pimax Crystal VR & Simpit User | Ryzen CPU & Nvidia RTX GPU | Some of my mods
Slayer Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Really only need to change zoom when typing into the CDU or doing a gun run so at those times constant view adjust isn't needed and it doesn't hurt to take your hand off the throttle for a split sec. If you have rudders with toe brakes you could set a toe brake for zoom axis and just have the other do both brakes,that way you could always maintain both hands on the HOTAS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit
Botch Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I just have the pinky switch set as a modifier and use the pinky with DMS up / down for slow zoom in / slow zoom out. Works perfectly for me and no hands off the :joystick:. Botch... E8400 @ 3,7 GHz | 6GB | ATI 6950 | Transcend 128GB SSD | 1T Samsung F3 | 24” 1920x1080 BenQ | TM Warthog | TM MFD's | TrackIR5 | Saitek Combat Pedals | W7 x64
RogueRunner Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I've had my Hog throttle Inc/Decr axis assigned to zoom view from day 1. Same here, works like a charm. With the price of ammunition these days do not expect a warning shot.
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