-Ice Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Does anyone know which keyboard buttons are unused by the sim? I want to map my push-to-talk, vac, and TrackIR center buttons. Thanks! - Ice
S D Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Your using a TM Warthog correct? I myself use "mic switch" Up for TS3 transmit and "mic switch" Push for TIR Centre. Afaik the unused buttons on the TM Warthog are: Throttle Mic Switch Up Mic Switch Push Slew Push Friction wheel on the right side (which i use for zoom). Stick Paddle button at the bottom. Not sure about VAC, but TS3 and TIR are able to use the button presses as default so you shouldnt need to map keyboard keys etc.
WarriorX Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Hi Ice, Since you are using the TrackIR, you can "free-up" some redundant key assignments. You can clear your cockpit view key assignments which are the numpad if memory serves me right. You can also clear the arrow keys as you have a joystick to do that job. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
-Ice Posted January 11, 2011 Author Posted January 11, 2011 Shadow, I'm talking about keys on the keyboard that have nothing mapped to them. I'm then going to use these keyboard keys for my TS3, TrackIR, and VAC push-to-talk. Warrior, I need the numpad keys for moving the view when in F2 (external) or F6 (weapon) views. I've re-mapped the Warthog trim hat to trim. What does up/down/left/right do in the game? I know that ; , . / are slew commands... - Ice
WarriorX Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I can still pan/zoom the F2/F6 view with my mouse. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
S D Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Just out of curiosity, why would you want them mapped on the keyboard? Surely having them available on the HOTAS would make your life a bit easier... Anyway, i'll leave Warrior to continue :thumbup:
WarriorX Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks Shadow, to answer your question, knowing which keys that are free in A-10C is needed because a couple critical TrackIR functions need key assignments to work. Mapping these TrackIR key assignments to the TM Warthog would require the use of the TARGET Software which most are avoiding at this time. Hope this helps you understand. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
Dejjvid Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 TIR should recognize the joystick buttons as TS3 does. I have Mic up as PTT for TS3 and Mic push as center TIR. And I don't even have Target installed.. :) Just go into game controller properties. Make sure all lights are off in the test page. Then you can open TS3/TIR and assign the buttons as usual :) i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic]
Raz_Specter Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Your using a TM Warthog correct? I myself use "mic switch" Up for TS3 transmit and "mic switch" Push for TIR Centre. Afaik the unused buttons on the TM Warthog are: Throttle Mic Switch Up Mic Switch Push Slew Push Friction wheel on the right side (which i use for zoom). Stick Paddle button at the bottom. Not sure about VAC, but TS3 and TIR are able to use the button presses as default so you shouldnt need to map keyboard keys etc. Shadow, how do you asign a button from the WH, I have tried launching TS3 clickiing the assing a button button and clicking the mic switch up but nothing happens. thanks Mithandra 1 Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist
Wolf Rider Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Perhaps look at modifying some of the existing, but not so often used, keyboard assignments which already exist. eg remap the F9 key assigment (I don't recall the assignment name) to Right Shift + F9 and assign the TIR Precision to F9 the same for F10 TIR Pause and F11 TIR Centre ? City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
Frogfoot1606687865 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Shadow, how do you asign a button from the WH, I have tried launching TS3 clickiing the assing a button button and clicking the mic switch up but nothing happens. thanks Mithandra 1) You need to open the controller properties page in Windows control panel - 'Devices and Printers'. 2) Then Right Click on the Warthog Throttle and select 'Game Controller Settings' this will pop up a new window. 3) Then select the throttle from the list and press 'properties' 4) Then ensure that no lights are lit (ie no buttons are pressed) you will need to toggle a few switches to turn off some of the lights. 5) Now you should be able to press a button on the throttle in Teamspeak or the Track IR software and have it detected. Note: repeat 3,4, and 5 with the HOTAS to assign a button from the stick Hope this helps Tom Windows 10 Pro 64bit, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, Intel i7 920 Corsair H70 water cooled @4GHz), Corsair XMS3 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel, Nvidia GTX780, OCZ Vertex 256GB SSD (for OS+DCS), TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS + Saitek Rudder
S D Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Thanks Shadow, to answer your question, knowing which keys that are free in A-10C is needed because a couple critical TrackIR functions need key assignments to work. Mapping these TrackIR key assignments to the TM Warthog would require the use of the TARGET Software which most are avoiding at this time. No problem Warrior, i understand the need for TIR functions, i myself only use the "re-centre" function, which as Dejjvid pointed out can just be assigned to a HOTAS button via the TIR software. BUt i suppose if you had use of the other functions aswell then maybe you would need to sort keyboard keys for those. Shadow, how do you asign a button from the WH, I have tried launching TS3 clickiing the assing a button button and clicking the mic switch up but nothing happens. thanks Mithandra As posted above mate, TS3 will not accept an input for PTT unless all of the HOTAS switches are in the neutral position. Once they are all in the neutral positions TS3 should not have a problem picking up a key press. Just remember that once you are finished flying if you wish to set your PTT back to say your mouse (where i have my PTT most of the time) you will need to reset the switches back to neutral. As far as i am aware TIR does not suffer from this problem and you can assign a HOTAS button without having the switches in the neutral positions. TM Warthog Neutral Positions: Base Switches Eng Fuel Flow: Both Override Position Eng Oper: Both Centre Position APU: Off Autopilot: Alt/Hdg RDR ALTM: DIS EAC: Off Flaps: Centre Throttle Speedbrake: Centre Boat: Centre Pinky Switch: Centre Also make sure the throttle is just idle NOT inside the indentation for engines off. Edited January 12, 2011 by Shadow.D.
Raz_Specter Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 No problem Warrior, i understand the need for TIR functions, i myself only use the "re-centre" function, which as Dejjvid pointed out can just be assigned to a HOTAS button via the TIR software. BUt i suppose if you had use of the other functions aswell then maybe you would need to sort keyboard keys for those. As posted above mate, TS3 will not accept an input for PTT unless all of the HOTAS switches are in the neutral position. Once they are all in the neutral positions TS3 should not have a problem picking up a key press. Just remember that once you are finished flying if you wish to set your PTT back to say your mouse (where i have my PTT most of the time) you will need to reset the switches back to neutral. As far as i am aware TIR does not suffer from this problem and you can assign a HOTAS button without having the switches in the neutral positions. TM Warthog Neutral Positions: Base Switches Eng Fuel Flow: Both Override Position Eng Oper: Both Centre Position APU: Off Autopilot: Alt/Hdg RDR ALTM: DIS EAC: Off Flaps: Centre Throttle Speedbrake: Centre Boat: Centre Pinky Switch: Centre Also make sure the throttle is just idle NOT inside the indentation for engines off. thanks worked a treat :) Mithandra Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist
GregP Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 So far the only two unmapped unshifted keys I've found are 'i' (key command PDF says this is for HOTAS Coolie Switch Down, but that's a typo, it's actually 'j' in-game) and 'F8'. If you have pedals, you can unmap X and Z (left and right rudder) too.
mikey Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Scroll Lock is the king of unused keys. I can't remember any game that has ever used that key. I've got 99 problems but my Ekran ain't one
rud Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 here's a tip: go to the controls page in DCS A-10C and start mashing buttons. When you hit a button that is bound to a command, the screen will jump to that command and highlight it. Sometimes it seems like I have to cancel out of the control screen and get back into it for this to work. Just keep mashing buttons until you find ones that aren't hooked up :-P This is also a good way to play "what does this button do?" with your joystick without crashing the plane... Personally I tend to use Alt+F# combinations for TrackIR.
hassata Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Scroll Lock is the king Period :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Burner Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 mic switch up for PTT Ventrilo it works, TS3 it does not. Burner Intel Core i7 9700 @ 5.1Ghz, Nvidia RTX 2080Ti, Win 10 Pro 64 Bit, HOTAS Hornet, Virpil CM2 Base, MFG Rudders , HP Reverb Pro
hassata Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 for ts3 use autohotkey.com [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
S D Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 for ts3 use autohotkey.com Please refer to my above post:- TM Warthog Neutral Positions: Base Switches Eng Fuel Flow: Both Override Position Eng Oper: Both Centre Position APU: Off Autopilot: Alt/Hdg RDR ALTM: DIS EAC: Off Flaps: Centre Throttle Speedbrake: Centre Boat: Centre Pinky Switch: Centre Also make sure the throttle is just idle NOT inside the indentation for engines off. Doing this requires no external or otherwise solutions with using the HOTAS with TS3. Just make sure the switches are in the correct positions before assigning your key press.
bradleyjs Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Need help - Setting the "Friction" slider to the View Zoom on my TM HOTAS... Only done it 4 times now, but for some reason I just can't remember -- old age IS a factor here ;-) ... I just can't remember where to configure it... Detailed instructions would help (if possible) Thanks !!!! U guys are the greatest!!! Alienware Area 51 R5 - Intel i9 7980XE (4.7 GHz), 32GB Dual Channel HyperX DDR4 XMP, Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Graphics 11GB GDDR5X SLI, 4.5 TB combo of SSDs/HDDs, Alienware 1500 Watt Multi-GPU Power Supply, Alienware 25” 240Hz Gaming Monitor, Alienware Pro Gaming Keyboard, TM HOTAS, TM Cougar F-16C MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, TrackIR5, Win10 Pro x64
hassata Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Please refer to my above post:- Doing this requires no external or otherwise solutions with using the HOTAS with TS3. Just make sure the switches are in the correct positions before assigning your key press. I thought TS3 doesn't recognize DX Button assignments, so Hotkey was a way around that. I'll try your method. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
WarriorX Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Need help - Setting the "Friction" slider to the View Zoom on my TM HOTAS... Only done it 4 times now, but for some reason I just can't remember -- old age IS a factor here ;-) ... I just can't remember where to configure it... Detailed instructions would help (if possible) Thanks !!!! U guys are the greatest!!! Hi Bradleyjs, I know how you feel! Here is the info you are looking for. Go to Options/Controls/ Hit the drop down arrow at the top of the Control Assignment page. Select Axis Commands There will be a zoom view in that list that you can assign to the slider on the Warthog Throttle. Happy Hunting! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
bradleyjs Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 WarriorX, Thanks so much!!! I just totally forgot where to set that View option... damn I'm getting Old!!! Thanks again for the quick reply! Alienware Area 51 R5 - Intel i9 7980XE (4.7 GHz), 32GB Dual Channel HyperX DDR4 XMP, Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Graphics 11GB GDDR5X SLI, 4.5 TB combo of SSDs/HDDs, Alienware 1500 Watt Multi-GPU Power Supply, Alienware 25” 240Hz Gaming Monitor, Alienware Pro Gaming Keyboard, TM HOTAS, TM Cougar F-16C MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, TrackIR5, Win10 Pro x64
hassata Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 No problem Warrior, i understand the need for TIR functions, i myself only use the "re-centre" function, which as Dejjvid pointed out can just be assigned to a HOTAS button via the TIR software. BUt i suppose if you had use of the other functions aswell then maybe you would need to sort keyboard keys for those. As posted above mate, TS3 will not accept an input for PTT unless all of the HOTAS switches are in the neutral position. Once they are all in the neutral positions TS3 should not have a problem picking up a key press. Just remember that once you are finished flying if you wish to set your PTT back to say your mouse (where i have my PTT most of the time) you will need to reset the switches back to neutral. As far as i am aware TIR does not suffer from this problem and you can assign a HOTAS button without having the switches in the neutral positions. TM Warthog Neutral Positions: Base Switches Eng Fuel Flow: Both Override Position Eng Oper: Both Centre Position APU: Off Autopilot: Alt/Hdg RDR ALTM: DIS EAC: Off Flaps: Centre Throttle Speedbrake: Centre Boat: Centre Pinky Switch: Centre Also make sure the throttle is just idle NOT inside the indentation for engines off. Thanks=this worked great with TS and Ventrilo. If anyone wants to map VAC, you will still need hotkey. Instructions here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=63003 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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