hitman Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Im designing a new computer for my flight simming, and my budget isnt limited for the next 4 months or so, so Ill probably be building it for the next 2 months. Here is what I have so far: Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188069 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231359 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211 HSF http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119115 GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595 HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136764 SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139428 Im also getting a BluRay burner, and I intend on getting 6 of those 16gb SSD drives and run them in RAID0. Problem is that Im not sure if the motherboard has enough SATA ports to run them all. My only requirements is that this thing has to run on my HDTV instead of a DVI monitor, which I see will be my biggest hassle. Any suggestions? Im not sure if I want to run in SLI as of yet, but Im not ruling it out. My last build never got off the ground with SLI, so Im not really worried about it. Also would like some info on flight sim benches.
Pilotasso Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Get an I7 2600K CPU instead. They are faster for similar price. I would get a single SDD instead of several, you gain speed but reliability will be lower. The model you chose is ancient history. Sandforce 120GB are the sweetspot right now. Allows OS instal and games you choose to install. I also recommend a COOLERMASTER HAF-X case, cheaper and offers all features you need and them some. .
celticcoho Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) Im designing a new computer for my flight simming, and my budget isnt limited for the next 4 months or so, so Ill probably be building it for the next 2 months. Here is what I have so far: Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188069 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231359 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211 HSF http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119115 GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595 HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136764 SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139428 Im also getting a BluRay burner, and I intend on getting 6 of those 16gb SSD drives and run them in RAID0. Problem is that Im not sure if the motherboard has enough SATA ports to run them all. My only requirements is that this thing has to run on my HDTV instead of a DVI monitor, which I see will be my biggest hassle. Any suggestions? Im not sure if I want to run in SLI as of yet, but Im not ruling it out. My last build never got off the ground with SLI, so Im not really worried about it. Also would like some info on flight sim benches. WHY 6 16gb ssds???The larger ones will run much faster!!!!I have 2 256gb ssds, but even 2 or 3 80gb ssds will be faster than 6 16s???:book: P.S. Call OriginPC , They are all about FAST and POWERFUL..They will answer your Questions, even if you don't but from them, They are Gamers and OLD Alienware execs...They are the best. Already they have Sandybridge at 5.0mhz Edited January 16, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
hitman Posted January 16, 2011 Author Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) Wouldnt running them in RAID0 speed up R/W times? Im more interested in top performance without spending 2 grand on just a hard disk. And whats the difference between the i7 950 and the 2600k anyways? Maybe 2 of these instead? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348 Edited January 16, 2011 by hitman
Cali Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Wouldnt running them in RAID0 speed up R/W times? Im more interested in top performance without spending 2 grand on just a hard disk. And whats the difference between the i7 950 and the 2600k anyways? Maybe 2 of these instead? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348 Read this thread about Sandy's http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=64635 Hopefully I can build my new computer by the end of March and I plan on getting a Sandy. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
hitman Posted January 16, 2011 Author Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) OK, Ill have a look at some of the 2500k stuff...mobos, cpu and ram. Anything Im missing? Pilotasso, I actually like this case...its genius with cable management, and it has damned efficient airflow throughout the case. My only beef is that its heavy. It doesnt look like LGA 1155 supports Tri-Channel memory..is this correct? Edited January 17, 2011 by hitman
Konovalov Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Get an I7 2600K CPU instead. They are faster for similar price. I would get a single SDD instead of several, you gain speed but reliability will be lower. The model you chose is ancient history. Sandforce 120GB are the sweetspot right now. Allows OS instal and games you choose to install. I also recommend a COOLERMASTER HAF-X case, cheaper and offers all features you need and them some. +1 to exactly what Pilotasso said on all of the above. The i7 2600k is newer and better than my i7-950 and it also has the same features such as quad core, HT but it will overclock considerably higher that the i7-950. The Coolermaster Haf X is also a great buy and if I didn't have my components inside this Antec P182B then today I would go for the Haf X. Excellent cooling, loads of space, front hot swappable drives and a pair of front USB3 ports to boot. If you don't like the rugged style then obviously look elsewhere. And again on the SSD a single 120GB Sandforce drive such as the OCZ Vertex 2E will be perfect for Windows 7 along with all your premium sims. Get a mchanical HD such as a Samsung F3 1TB or something to store mdeia, photos, and other games and programs on. :thumbup: Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
Konovalov Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Pilotasso, I actually like this case...its genius with cable management, and it has damned efficient airflow throughout the case. My only beef is that its heavy.It does come with wheels if that helps and pretty much all full size cases are heavy unless made of aluminium. It doesnt look like LGA 1155 supports Tri-Channel memory..is this correct? Yep that is correct. Sandybridge (LGA 1155) supports dual channel memory so you will be best to go for either 2 x 4gb sticks or 4 x 2gb sticks of RAM. One final thing that I would add regarding memory choice is that there appears little problem in populating all 4 memory banks with RAM sticks and overclocking your system. With some of the old Intel chipsets if you filled up all memory banks it would limit overclocking. A page from a Bit-Tech article highlights that this is not a problem with Sandybridge as per the below link: Sandy Bridge Memory : 4GB (2 DIMM) vs 16GB (4 DIMM) Edited January 17, 2011 by Konovalov Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
hitman Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 Why would they disable Trichannel memory? Im sold on the 2600k, but I think I would prefer tri channel over dual channel any day. As far as the HAF X goes, Im not going to bother with that case...personally I think it looks tacky. I might go with another Thermaltake Kandalf, that one was a good looking stand...but Im still sold on the Corsair case. Cable management is something Im not too good at.
Konovalov Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I really doubt that in real world terms and flight sims you would be able to distinguish or see any difference between tri and dual channel memory. Bottom line is that you will get slightly better stock performance from Sandybridge with massive headroom to easily overclock your 2500k or 2600k which will extend the performance life of your rig. All of this with dual channel memory. On the case, as I said earlier they are personal things because it is your most visible component. Just make sure your case has good airflow, room for upgrades if required, good cable management, and quality built. Haf x, corsair 800 or 700 all tick these boxes along with others. So go with what fits your budget, feature set, and of course looks good. Happy building of your DCS killer rig. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
celticcoho Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I really doubt that in real world terms and flight sims you would be able to distinguish or see any difference between tri and dual channel memory. Bottom line is that you will get slightly better stock performance from Sandybridge with massive headroom to easily overclock your 2500k or 2600k which will extend the performance life of your rig. All of this with dual channel memory. On the case, as I said earlier they are personal things because it is your most visible component. Just make sure your case has good airflow, room for upgrades if required, good cable management, and quality built. Haf x, corsair 800 or 700 all tick these boxes along with others. So go with what fits your budget, feature set, and of course looks good. Happy building of your DCS killer rig. Originpc.com, they have Sandy Bridge at 5+ Stable, call them, sure they will answer your ?s The need to OC??I dont see it, but if that is what you are looking for. Origin can do it, gaurenteed TOO:: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
Konovalov Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Origin can do it? I'm not sure what you are saying here. :huh: Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
celticcoho Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Origin can do it? I'm not sure what you are saying here. :huh: Kono, I am just saying OriginPC has Sandy Bridge figured out and are useing it now at 5ghz+, I know they are not in UK, but a call might answer your ??? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
Konovalov Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 That's cool but it was Hitman looking for advise on a new build as per the first post of this thread. All I was doing was offering him some advise. In short to get a Sandybridge based system and not an i7-950 socket 1366 like I currently have. :) Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
hitman Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) I really enjoyed my i7 920 platform, which is why I wanted to get another i7 1366 chip. Im not anxious to start overclocking hardcore again, but it was fun overclocking that 920. I Had that one o/c to 4.8ghz stable once before I sold it. And Im not shelling out 6 large for an OriginPC. Im only doing the computer if I dont get an auto loan for a truck Im trying to buy, and 6k would go along way to getting that truck paid off. Edited January 18, 2011 by hitman
Cali Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I really enjoyed my i7 920 platform, which is why I wanted to get another i7 1366 chip. Im not anxious to start overclocking hardcore again, but it was fun overclocking that 920. I Had that one o/c to 4.8ghz stable once before I sold it. And Im not shelling out 6 large for an OriginPC. Im only doing the computer if I dont get an auto loan for a truck Im trying to buy, and 6k would go along way to getting that truck paid off. I went to that OriginPC site and built a very good computer for about 2G's. That's not a bad price since I don't upgrade very often, I tend to keep my computers for a very long time. Look at what I'm using now....in my sig :music_whistling: try not to bust a gut laughing though. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
hitman Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 That aint nothing, I had the same computer in college. Then I spent 3 grand upgrading it 6 months after I got it, and sold it for 1 grand 4 months later. Yeah Im stupid. 1
Conure Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I have only just "upgraded" to my gtx460 and core i5 760 and all of you guys have your i7s and 570s...I hate pc's....I'm going to go play Hawx on my 360 at a consistent 30fps.... *sulks* Intel i7 6700k, Asus GTX1070, 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung Evo 850 SSD @ 500GB * 2, TrackIR 5 and 27" monitor running at 2560 * 1440, Windows 10.
hitman Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Dont feel bad, Im on a shitty laptop right now. Hell, I might not even build this coming computer if I get what I want.
Frazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I'm wondering what you need that 24GB of RAM for? I would save some money on that as I think 75% of your 24GB of ram will never be used. And then, use that money to get a one or two 120 or 240 GB SSD's. Forum | Videos | DCS:BS Demo1 / Demo2 | YouTube Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hitman Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Im not decided yet, but Im only going to get 8gigs instead of 24.
Frazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 8 gig of RAM would be a fair amount yes Forum | Videos | DCS:BS Demo1 / Demo2 | YouTube Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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