Cockpit view (mission start) is all messed up

Kenan · February 9, 2011

When the mission loading is about to end and present me with the ingame view, I get the blank screen but can hear the sounds in the background (I can also control the plane, tried this by firiing the GAU).

Sometimes the screen is blank (black) and sometimes the graphics are all distorted. Is this perhaps related to video drivers? I have ATI 4770.

Thanks

Kenan · February 9, 2011

Hmm..updated to latest ATI drivers and the problem persists. Tried changing between GUI interfaces but no change. The screen simply flickers, there's a still ingame image of the cockpit and the loading screen just overlapping each other.

159th_Viper · February 9, 2011

Close the SIM, clear the contents of your Temp folder, start-up again and see if that helps. Also toggle all your settings to low to trouble-shoot.

Nate--IRL-- · February 9, 2011

Will need a bit more info, see here for details....... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=59946

Nate

Kenan · February 9, 2011

^^I dont have access to that forum yet.

If by the info you mean what version am I running?

I'm running beta4 and realized I have this issue only when setting textures to HIGH and having HDR on. HDR is off now and Textures are set to MEDIUM and the problem is gone. I hope this gets fixed in the future.

Nate--IRL-- · February 9, 2011

^^I dont have access to that forum yet.
If by the info you mean what version am I running?
I'm running beta4 and realized I have this issue only when setting textures to HIGH and having HDR on. HDR is off now and Textures are set to MEDIUM and the problem is gone. I hope this gets fixed in the future.

Can you give details of your system? Preferably Output from DXDIAG.

Edit:- sorry I see you have no OB access. How to get Open Beta forum access --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=61793

Nate

Kenan · February 10, 2011

Tried every step and did click the Access beta button but still no joy.

Anyway, here are my DXDIAG specs:

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System Information

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Time of this report: 2/10/2011, 01:20:50

Machine name: SOUTHPARK

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647)

Language: English (Regional Setting: Croatian)

System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

BIOS: Default System BIOS

Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 250 Processor, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

Memory: 3584MB RAM

Page File: 768MB used, 4697MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes

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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.

Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Music Tab: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices

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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4770

Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.

Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x94B3)

DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_94B3&SUBSYS_29001682&REV_00

Display Memory: 512.0 MB

Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)

Monitor: Generic Television

Monitor Max Res: 640,480

Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll

Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7157 (English)

DDI Version: 9 (or higher)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 1/5/2011 03:59:24, 302080 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: n/a

WHQL Date Stamp: n/a

VDD: n/a

Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys

Mini VDD Date: 1/5/2011 04:34:28, 5656576 bytes

Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D7F3-11CF-C76E-0A09A1C2CB35}

Vendor ID: 0x1002

Device ID: 0x94B3

SubSys ID: 0x29001682

Revision ID: 0x0000

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D

Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

Registry: OK

DDraw Status: Enabled

D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

DDraw Test Result: Not run

D3D7 Test Result: Not run

D3D8 Test Result: Not run

D3D9 Test Result: Not run

The Ooom · February 10, 2011

My friend is experiencing a similar problem... Missions load with a black screen with all the sounds running in background. We will be watching this thread closely for some advice.

Nate--IRL-- · February 10, 2011

Try this, linked in my sig. Please post in here http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=63 to get access to the Open Beta forum, this thread will most likely be moved in there soon.

Note- EDITING incorrectly the BOOT.INI can make your system unbootable, requiring repairing windows from the XP installation disk.

You're right Nate, i've amended my previous post BTW, i thought sam777777 was refering to Windows 7 32 bit :music_whistling:

I found this description for editing the boot.ini for XP, here's the copy and paste:

Enable the 3GB switch on Windows XP

Right-click My Computer. Click Properties.

In the System Properties dialog box, click the Advanced tab.

On the Advanced tab, under Startup and Recovery, click Settings.

In the Startup and Recovery dialog box, under System startup, click Edit. The Windows boot.ini file will be opened in Microsoft® Notepad.

Create a backup copy of the boot.ini file. Note: Boot.ini files may vary from computer to computer.
Select the following line in the boot.ini file:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

Press Ctrl+C to copy the line and then press Ctrl+V to paste it immediately below the original line.
Note: Your text string may be different from the text string in this solution, so be sure to copy the text string from your boot.ini file, and not the text string included here.
Modify the copied line to include “ /3GB”, as shown in the following example:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional 3GB" /3GB /fastdetect
Note: Do not overwrite any existing lines.

Save and close the boot.ini file.

Click OK to close each dialog box.

Restart your computer.

During startup, select the 3GB option. If you do not select the 3GB option, the system will default to the 2GB total memory setting.

Note: If problems occur during startup, you may need to update some of your drivers.

Nate

Edited February 10, 2011 by Nate--IRL--

Ragtag · February 10, 2011

clear the cache. That usually fixes the black screen.

Delete everything in this folder: DCS A-10C Beta\Temp

Kenan · February 10, 2011

As I previoulsy posted, the problem was with textures set to HIGH. When I set them to MEDIUM (and disable HDR) the problem is no longer there. It kinda sucks but I hope beta6 gets this fixed as I'd very much like to play it with textures set to max.

Nate--IRL-- · February 10, 2011

Have you tried what I posted? I believe it will help.

Nate

The Ooom · February 10, 2011

Thanks Nate, will give this info to my friend and let you know of the outcome.

The Ooom · February 11, 2011

My friend tried all the advice, but no success. As for the boot editing, the 3Gb option does not appear at boot-up. You mentioned updating drivers ? Which ones.

I'm also worried about his system specs, maybe it is too low:

* Intel E6600 core 2 duo processor

* 3GB Ram: a mixture of 2 x 1GB and 2 x 512 Mb simms

* Nvidia 7900 GTX Graphics

Attached, a pic of what his screen... almost looks like a night mission.

I wanted to tell him to switch on the lights, but thought this frustrated A10 enthusiast is in no mood for jokes !

The Ooom · February 11, 2011

We tried the boot-up again:

Did everything according to script. On start up I had two options of Microsoft XP to choose from…No 2G or 3G. When I recheck the text string, the second line reads as see attachment :

Attachment:

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer /numproc=2

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /3GB"/3GB/fastdetect /usepmtimer /numproc=2

The Ooom · February 11, 2011

Problem solved!! As suspected, the black screen was caused by the Nvidia 7900 GTX card. Too old for the new Sim. Replaced it with an Nvidia 450 and no more black screen !

Nate--IRL-- · February 11, 2011

Problem solved!! As suspected, the black screen was caused by the Nvidia 7900 GTX card. Too old for the new Sim. Replaced it with an Nvidia 450 and no more black screen !

Good to know, I'll try to remember that. Also in the Boot.ini line you left out spaces and had stuff in the wrong place

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /3GB"/3GB/fastdetect /usepmtimer /numproc=2

It should look like this

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional 3GB" /3GB /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer /numproc=2

Nate

Kenan · February 22, 2011

The same problem is still there, as with the beta, setting textures to HIGH makes cockpit view either invisible or messed up which is really dissapointing.

Mirtma · February 22, 2011

When the mission loading is about to end and present me with the ingame view, I get the blank screen but can hear the sounds in the background (I can also control the plane, tried this by firiing the GAU).

Sometimes the screen is blank (black) and sometimes the graphics are all distorted. Is this perhaps related to video drivers? I have ATI 4770.

Thanks

I had the same card, and no problems. Last time I used it with 11.1 drivers.

Nate--IRL-- · February 22, 2011

The same problem is still there, as with the beta, setting textures to HIGH makes cockpit view either invisible or messed up which is really dissapointing.

Kenan why do you not answer? Have you tried the 3GB fix in my sig?

Nate

Kenan · February 22, 2011

^^I must have missed it. Gonna check it out (thanks!).

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