Can't Hit Target With GBU-12

I'm following the procedure in the quick start guide but my bomb always overshoots the target and lands somewhere forward of the target. What am I doing wrong?

 

1) I select GBU-12

2) I select master mode CCRP

3) Select TGP then A/G then make SOI

4) select point targeting (ctrl-u)

5) designate target (ctrl-U held down target is designated)

6) I line up the two lines with the aiming retricle center of line

7) release solutions starts to drop and I hold down my weapon release button

8) release solution passes my aiming retricle and the bomb drops automatically

 

I do the above and I always overshoot my target several meters.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

[Quirkitized]

I do it via the training mission way, go into the gbu-12 profile, change from ccip to ccrp (if you prefer ccrp). Go into the advance settings page (bottom left of profile, button) change AUTO LASE to ON and change the auto lase time to about 10sec before impact.

 

You can also manually lase the target.

 

I had the same problem as you until I re-did the training and did the auto lasing, I haven't missed a target since. Overall you are doing it correctly I just think you had same problem as me, just not using the laser properly.

[Sarge55]

Try placing the aim point at the base/under the tgt. I beleive the TGP actually only sees the terrain and doesn't actually register the tank or what you are aiming at so it's aiming through your tgt to the ground.

I do it via the training mission way, go into the gbu-12 profile, change from ccip to ccrp (if you prefer ccrp). Go into the advance settings page (bottom left of profile, button) change AUTO LASE to ON and change the auto lase time to about 10sec before impact.

 

You can also manually lase the target.

 

I had the same problem as you until I re-did the training and did the auto lasing, I haven't missed a target since. Overall you are doing it correctly I just think you had same problem as me, just not using the laser properly.

 

Isn't it lasing the target when the L cue is present on the TGP display? If not, is there a key bind to manually lasing the target?

 

Also, where exactly is "advance settings page (bottom left of profile, button) "?

 

Thanks.

[EvilBivol-1]

The AUTO LS function has been set to OFF in the release (apparently most pilots prefer to lase manually). This means you have to lase the target manually by using the HOTAS pinky button or, as pointed out already, change the AUTO LS function to ON and set a timer for the LS TIME function for how long before impact you want the laser to fire automatically.

 

And, as also pointed out, you may benefit from the PGM training mission.

I'll take a look. Thanks gentlemen.

btw - you're talking about the nose wheel button when you say the hotas pinky button, not the pinky switch on hotas right? I'm going to try them now :)

[EtherealN]

L cue means Laser is ready. L blinking means laser is lasing.

 

And yes, please run the training missions. They'll help you with a lot of these questions you are having. ;)

[Quirkitized]

Yup the nose wheel button once in air is your laser.

 

edit: sniped !

LOL. So not lasing using the nose wheel button was the only step I was missing above. Just killed some tanks. :)

 

I like to read documentation and follow step by step procedures instead if sitting through the training missions. This is because I can pause the simulation and read, then when I am ready, I unpause and continue and so forth. This is just my preferred style of studying simulations. For example, all I needed to know was how to lase in this case. Don't want to sit through the entire training mission just for that tidbit. I'll go through those training missions in time to learn the simulation more in depth but I am a reader :)

 

Looks like the quick start guide and the flight manual needs to be updated with this info.

 

Thanks again gentlemen.

[EtherealN]

Nothing stopping you from doing the same with the training missions. You're not "sitting through them", you are playing them. They're interactive, in case you didn't notice. ;) And you can pause them when you need to do a bit of reading.

 

Updating the quick start for all this kind of stuff would make it stop being a quick-start and rather be another manual. Also, the manual instructions on GBU-12 employment does state that Auto-Lase (and lase time) have to be set on. Here's a direct quote:

 

(Page 552, combat employment, under figure 444)

2. With the bomb released, release the weapon release button and press the nosewheel steering button to fire the laser if AUTO LASE is not set to ON. If the laser is firing, the "L" laser status on the left side of the HUD will flash.

 

;)

I think I found a bug with manual lasing and external views. I notice that when I manually lase (hold down nose wheel button) and then do any external view then return to cockpit view (all the while still holding the lase button), the L is no longer blinking.

 

Can anyone confirm?

[Quirkitized]

turn laser latch on, or maybe it's off.... i can't remember off the top of my head....this is also covered in the training heh

Thanks but I don't want to use latch. I want to manually lase by holding down the lase button. I guess I have no choice but to use latch until this is resolved.

[Quirkitized]

In your TGP on the top left, goto CNTL button. Once there, on the right side turn LSR Latch to ON.

 

By default the laser will time out after a few sec, i forgot the default time. If you put latch to on, the laser will remain active and lasing after you press the nosewheel button. It will not stop lasing until you press it again. This works with external views and back into cockpit.

 

edit: nvm it looks like you know how to use latch, not sure why the external view thing is messing it up maybe it's just timing out or maybe you let go of the button? I will try it myself some time also, curious to see.

Yep, I went through the training mission and know how the latch button works but I wanted to be able to manually hold the lase button while the bomb was falling.

 

Anyway, thanks for sharing your knowledge Quirk! A few reps for you :)

[Kenan]

I have a weird problem with lasing:

Sometimes manual lasing works but sometimes it just stops.

For example, on my first attack run, the moment I pickle a bomb I press and hold the laser button and the L flashes but when I try and repeat the same procedure on another attack run, it simply doesn't work anymore (the L's no longer flashing). Same happens when Laching is ON as if now it works, now it doesn't anymore.

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks.

[luza]

make sure your TGP isn't Masked or close to being masked as this will prevent the laser from firing

[Kenan]

^^You mean the "M" designation? I don't think that's the problem. My targets are on the field, no buldings, no obstacles.

 

When I press and hold or hit the INSERT key it just stops lasing for good, in either manual or auto mode.

[S77th-konkussion]

I am also seeing something that doesn't seem right. Nothing to do with hitting/ accuracy- the laser seems to be activating itself..

 

Latch ON/ auto lase OFF.

 

By now- I have already POINT tracked a target, and sometimes I set it as SPI even before I can get turned back around and lined up..

 

This is the strange part- without me touching it- I have turned back around, and more often than not- it's lasing. So I literally turn OFF the laser (NWS button stops it) and proceed with an otherwise normal drop/ las @ 10 sec. etc...

[EinsteinEP]

With the latch on, it's possible the laser was activated and then not de-activated, but it's hard to guess without a track. Do you have one you can post?

[S77th-konkussion]

Yep- it's long- but easy enough to speed up and see what I mean. I took nothing but LGB's so at least it's narrowed down that much... AT first I thought I was forgetting to turn it off after a run. However- I'm told that it should deactivate itself... At any rate- I flew this loadout to test specifically. I was careful to turn it off. Several runs on this track.

 

 

one sec..

 

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BzkMgHDjxmCXZDMxNWJmZGQtZDE1MC00ZGM2LTg2OTQtOGY3MGU1MmIzNjQy&hl=en&authkey=COborokP

 

 

edited- forgot to set share settings in google docs...

Edited February 27, 2011 by S77th-konkussion