S77th-konkussion Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 http://www.wimp.com/supersonicflight/ [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
aaron886 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Not quite... they compress air. Light distorts as it travels through air of varying density. When you see the visible "warp" in the air in this picture: It's the air being compressed at high transonic speed.
VBARhino Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlieren_photography
S77th-konkussion Posted March 2, 2011 Author Posted March 2, 2011 Yes.. That was the Subject of the email/ Title of the video I got- not a question. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
nscode Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Put the end of a vacuum cleaner tube next to a wall on a very cold day, and you will see it "bend light" :) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Vekkinho Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Put the end of a vacuum cleaner tube next to a wall on a very cold day, and you will see it "bend light" :) You must be very bored...;) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
power5 Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 The moisture in the air is what is being condenssed. That is why you see the cloud during a sonic boom. Light travels differently through water than air. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
Avilator Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 The moisture in the air is what is being condenssed. That is why you see the cloud during a sonic boom. Light travels differently through water than air. That is true, but what is happening in the photos without visible vapor is that the differences in air density are making small changes in the speed of light traveling through those areas. Those differences are perceived as "ripples." And you don't have to be going fast either, you can see this effect on aircraft with their flaps down, in the right conditions. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
sobek Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 That is true, but what is happening in the photos without visible vapor is that the differences in air density are making small changes in the speed of light traveling through those areas. Those differences are perceived as "ripples." And you don't have to be going fast either, you can see this effect on aircraft with their flaps down, in the right conditions. Simple matter of optical refraction, always happens when light passes through mediums with different refraction indexes. In this case, air at atmospheric pressure vs. air compressed and heated by a shockwave. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Avilator Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Simple matter of optical refraction, always happens when light passes through mediums with different refraction indexes. In this case, air at atmospheric pressure vs. air compressed and heated by a shockwave. Exactly. I was (gently) correcting power5's comment about the distortion being the result of moisture alone, not pressure or temperature differences. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
power5 Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 But doesn't all our air have moisture in it? So, compressing it is forcing the moisture into a denser state thus refracting the light differently. As you said, this would be the case at any speed in flight where the air is changing density. If I am wrong so be it, I like learning things but thought I had grasped this idea of shockwaves already in the past. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
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