Tactile Feedback System 3

[predator-nz]

Thanks for the feed back guys. I think I might give it a go will post back here and let you know the results.

[JG14_Smil]

acemark brings up a good point about the InteliVibe output being too harsh at normal flight speeds. That much vibration causes fatigue after a long flight (true simming) :)

 

If the TFS3 was optimised to work with DCS, it would rock.

[predator-nz]

Hopefully one day it will be !!!

Then I think alot more people will invest in it.

[PoleCat]

Hello again Mate,

 

I have one. For driving sims it is the best thing ever. IMHO, it could be much better when it comes to using it with DCS (all I fly is the KA-50, so a plane with more G forces might be different).

 

It should start thumping as soon as the rotors do, but it does not. You need to acheive a certain speed for vibration effects like rotors and G forces to be felt.

 

Great for low back pain though :)

 

I would reccomend a tactile bass shaker instead with a powerful amp.

 

The ivibe rotor modeling is not yet complete for the KA-50. It is in the works AFAIK. I would never recommend a shaker over the ivibe.

 

Out

[TomDK]

Time to bring this thread up again. :)

 

I tried this mod, to make one monitor.lua and one export.lua for A-10 and KA-50:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1541311&postcount=68

 

It works well, but you have also to use a "KA-50 and A-10 export.exe".

This export does not support IVIBE nor HELIOS. :(

 

After trying several hours I got back to noemal "IVIBE and HELIOS" setup.

For A-10 it works, but for the shark I get only A-10 to work with IVIBE and HELIOS.

For any reason, the shark works only with Helios or with IVIBE :(

 

Any idea for me ?

 

Attached you will find a zip-file with my 3 different export.lua ´s

 

Cheers

Tom

 

 

Maybe someone can make a exports for helios, ivibe, shark and A-10 :thumbup::music_whistling:

ivibe-expots.zip

[JG14_Smil]

I think you are just going to have to wait until the TFS is done right. Craig is gotta be the nicest and most unlucky guy in the world.

 

I will save my judgement for then. Polecat, you one of their best supporters, but I have been around this for years and have seen how things work at Ivibe. I too look forward to the next version.

 

I will say that without vibrations, the best cockpit in the world is a waste of time.

[TomDK]

You mean its kind of a bug in IVIBE ?

 

With the A-10 , IVIBE and Helios everythig wolrs. What is the big difference between Shark in DCSW and A-10 ?

 

Thanks

Tom

[schkorpio]

I've just bought a buttkicker gamer v2 - I had no idea it would so crazy loud as it vibrates my chair so much the chair turns into a giant subwoofer and I imagine it would annoy the neighbouring apartments.

I will probably ebay it unless I can find a way to isolate the vibration just to the seat of the chair.

 

Is the ivibe TFS3 fairly quiet? more like a traditional game controller rumble?

[TomDK]

Yes, the IVIBE is only on the seat. Its rumbling the butt, the legs and back.

My simpit in it all is not shaking and it is the noise of 16 little motors.... will say, no big noise ... just a rumbling.

[PoleCat]

Waiting on the latest release of the control panel for the TFS3 now. It will add some further enhancements to vibes for DCSW AFAIK.

 

The TFS3 is a slow moving project for sure but even at this stage the results are far better then a traditional butt shaker speaker driven device.

 

The Ivibe TFS3 is a true FFB device not a rumble seat based on a speaker driver. This fact makes all the difference in the world.

 

Out

[Gadroc]

I'm kind of interested in trying out a TFS3, but from their documentation in order to enable it for DCS World you have to turn off Export.lua. This is an absolute NO GO for anyone with a cockpit. Is this accurate? I have no idea why on earth they require setting of EnableExportScript to false.

 

Also does anyone have dimensions for the seat pad? I'd need to verify it would work on my ACES seat.

[acemark]

JG14 smil I have TFS 3 and am running DCS World with B.S. 2 , works fine . I upgraded to latest version this past dec. 25-30 When I installed D.C.S. C.A. SO everything is up to date.Running Helios to.I have noticed that I cant get into vehicals When TFS and Helios are running with D.C.S. C.A. , only fly. Just C.A. I can switch A/C , ground vehical just fine.

 

Gadroc Why is it a no go ? I am building KA-50 pit and really want to keep my TFS 3 in it.I feel I am about to here more complicated bad news .

Seat dimentions Base-19 and 3/4" wide x 16 and 1/4 " deep.

Back- 19 and 3/4" wide at bottom ,11" wide at top x 17 and 3/4" high.

PS Helios was a great invention I love it . Mark

 

Edit; Forgot THickness, Base-3", Back 2". I took about 1.25" off the bottom of my pit seat to retain same seat hight.

Edited January 25, 2013 by acemark

[metalnwood]

Acemark, pitbuilders rely on the export scripts top get information from the game to drive our external gauges/lights/switches etc.

 

Helios, tars, ipad apps etc are examples of things that require DCS to export in game information through those scripts.

 

I would have to think it's a typo otherwise how else does ivibe get their information?

[TomDK]

@Gadroc:

 

No, you can have exports activated while using TFS3. In the older version of TFS3 you have had the choice to run it with its native software or via the exports. On the exports you had better/more vibrations due to implementation in the native software.

 

On A-10 I can fly with helios and TFS3.

KA-50 I have the choice TFS3 **OR** helios, both together will not work for any reason.

 

Measurements:

 

Around 40 cm seat, 40 cm back and 40 cm bright.

[G00dnight]

tfs software is now built in to dcs so no tinkering is required, I have all modules working fine in world with tfs and helios, exports work like a dream. no need to turn off exports..

[TomDK]

Maybe one of the gentlemen would post his configfiles.

 

I would like also to join the shark with IVIBE and helios .. :thumbup:

For any reason it wont work so far.

[G00dnight]

I am using peter p's exports on latest version of world this gives you all the exports for a10 and ka50 with individual names for each export so a10 and ka don't clash.

for the ivibe bit I do nothing more than start the ivibe control panel and pick a plane it has a10,ka50 and fc3 p51 as defaults, don't know why p51 is listed under fc3..since world v1.2 I have not installed any ivibe stuff into exports it don't need it.

tom your prob is what I was getting before peters brilliant mod for the export names. are your mfds etc named like A10_LEFT_MFD etc or the old way of just LMFD..

[TomDK]

I use also PeterP´s fantastic "all in one export" and all exports are renamed according to PeterP´s files.

 

But ... so far I can see KA-50 and A-10 have different portnumbers for the helios exports. If I use only the "all in one export" in the shark the gauges do not work, knobs, etc from helios are recognized.

 

In the GUI for helios I can also not add KA-50 as an device or even update the helios profile also for the shark. My shark installation will not be found by helios.

[G00dnight]

are you using the latest helios ? 1.2.176

i just point the helios at world install dont hit setup and save the profile.

I have not had a problem adding the bs as a device you can try a profile that already has it first.

[TomDK]

are you using the latest helios ? 1.2.176

i just point the helios at world install dont hit setup and save the profile.

I have not had a problem adding the bs as a device you can try a profile that already has it first.

 

 

Helios is 1.2.176.

Exports for IVIBE=false

 

 

 

For any reason in my export for A-10 there is a section for TFS3, not in the export for KA-50 ....

 

 

Maybe someone might have a look in the files or post me his exports.lua .

 

 

Thanks

Tom

Export shark.lua

A-10_Export.lua

[acemark]

Whats going on here!? I checked and export false intelivibe true.Blackshark in world with helios, shkval, abbris,saitek joystick, head tracker, tsf-3,and Brydlings board {for abris and home made rudder} WORKING to all together.

A10 not installed. --- This might be problem for you.

I had to add the intelliVIBE=true myself . Cant remember if I disabled export or it was done on install.

TomDK I tried to post config. file but cant figure out how. Do I need to First post it on the internet? Ifso what site would I use?

PS DCS CA working fine last night. Alowed me to enter ground vehicles and a/c.

[acemark]

TomDK I see you want export filenot cofig. file.Tell me How and I wil post Mark

[TomDK]

If you click on "new reply" you get the full editor.

Under the typo field there is "Manage Attachements". Just click and choose your export.lua ans "UPLOAD".

 

Thats it.

 

I tried again with my A-10 profile in the shark, IVIBE works but Helios is not working: No knobs, no exported informations.

 

I will try your export after arrival ...

 

Thank you so far ...

[JG14_Smil]

Hello TomDK,

 

My TFS3 works with BS2/World/Helios with the following...

 

EnableExportScript = false -- set true to enable Export.lua script, please

intelliVIBE = true.

 

I'll get my tfs file to post it to try. It has the same default name as the original, but I've edited it to get vibes working at a lower speed.

 

If Helios does not work, make sure the setup button does not need to be updated.

Edited January 26, 2013 by JG14_Smil

[TomDK]

Thank you, but I need a working export file for A-10 and KA-50.

I can not choose KA-50 as a device in helios. Thats my problem.

 

Sure will try your ivibe-file if everything works.