i7 2500k or 2600k????

[genbrien]

Hi!

I'm questionning myself and my credit card to what new CPU will I buy ?!:music_whistling: :D

 

I'll overclock it for sure, so the difference in mhz between them dont bother me. It's more about the cache MB. Is 2mb more(for the 2600k) worth 100$ ???

If I'm only going to see a 1-2fps gain than I'll save the 100$.....

 

And also, why my Q9550 has 12mb of cache compare to the 2500 6mb and 2600 8mb???

[EtherealN]

Well, the differences between them aren't just the cache, the 2600K also has hyperthreading and the series 3000 iGPU, while the 2500K (being an i5, not i7) has no HT and series 2000 iGPU. In practice though, for most games, you will not notice any difference at all, including DCS. And it's not like you'll want to use either iGPU - indeed, if you use a P67 motherboard (like I do) you are unable to use the iGPU.

 

The i5 2500K actually has just as much cache available as the Q9550, since the latter is actually not really a quad-core; it's two dual-cores in the same package so q9550 cache is 2x6MB, not 12MB. the i5 2500K will absolutely annihilate the Q9550.

 

As far as value goes, my recommendation is the 2500K. The chances of seeing a difference between 2500K and 2600K are miniscule - it's mostly the type of scientifical computing where extra logical cores from HT is useful, video encoding and such things.

[genbrien]

Well, the differences between them aren't just the cache, the 2600K also has hyperthreading and the series 3000 iGPU, while the 2500K (being an i5, not i7) has no HT and series 2000 iGPU. In practice though, for most games, you will not notice any difference at all, including DCS. And it's not like you'll want to use either iGPU - indeed, if you use a P67 motherboard (like I do) you are unable to use the iGPU.

 

The i5 2500K actually has just as much cache available as the Q9550, since the latter is actually not really a quad-core; it's two dual-cores in the same package so q9550 cache is 2x6MB, not 12MB. the i5 2500K will absolutely annihilate the Q9550.

 

As far as value goes, my recommendation is the 2500K. The chances of seeing a difference between 2500K and 2600K are miniscule - it's mostly the type of scientifical computing where extra logical cores from HT is useful, video encoding and such things.

 

k thx

 

Anyway, got some problem with my car so I wont get it soon......:mad::cry:

I'll wait for the next Intel 6 core, maybe sandy Bridge prices will drop :music_whistling:

And are you satisfieid with your Sabertooth ?

[sofie_59]

And they have just hit the stores so what will be next?

I just sit and wait . soon we will proberly have 2700,2800 or meybe 3000

I just bought my pc I7 930 so i can wait a little longer!

[EtherealN]

And are you satisfieid with your Sabertooth ?

 

Fairly satisfied, though I should have given it's so-called heat shroud a closer look before buying. It's made for use with a specific type of CPU fan/heatsink assembly, and since I have water I needed an extra 50x50x10 fan.

 

I've heard very good things about the P67 PRO's and Deluxes from ASUS though. They're definitely worth a look as well.

[genbrien]

 

I've heard very good things about the P67 PRO's and Deluxes from ASUS though. They're definitely worth a look as well.

 

there is a bundle at NCIX : 2600k + p67deluxe for 510$

 

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60049&vpn=2600K-P8P67Deluxe&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1302

 

credit card is soooooooooooooooooooooo close:music_whistling::helpsmilie:

[EtherealN]

Just remember to also pick up some RAM if you buy that bundle (the dollar price makes it hard for me to judge the pricetag), and check compatibility on the ram from the ASUS QVL list for that mobo.

 

That there is definitely good kit though. :)

[Giantsfan24]

If you're going the K series, like me, do yourself a favor, and get a good aftermarket cooler. I have a hyper 212 and i can do 4.5ghz primed under 60C. And remember, prime 95 taxes your cpu more than any game ever will. With stock heat sink fan, it was getting into the 90s(NOT GOOD). A 212 only cost me $25 after a $5 rebate. Great deal. Check out neweggs reviews.

 

Oh, I recommend the 2500K. Games don't use much HT and if you're going to overclock, you'll pass the 2600k stock speed anyway.

[Bolt-1]

there is a bundle at NCIX : 2600k + p67deluxe for 510$

 

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60049&vpn=2600K-P8P67Deluxe&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1302

 

credit card is soooooooooooooooooooooo close:music_whistling::helpsmilie:

 

Click on each item for a description....

 

HAF 932

I5 2500K @4.5

Asus P8P67 Deluxe

Patriot sector 5 Ram 8Gig's DC DDR3 9 9 9 24 @1600Mhz

Thermalright Silver Arrow HSF

EVGA GTX570

OCZ 120Gig Vertex2 SSD

500Gig caviar Black HDD

Corsair TX850 PSU

Sansung XL2370

W7 Pro 64

Holy Crap is this thing fast..

 

I just put this together about 2 weeks ago. I know you dont need it all. but in my opinion the 2600K isnt worth the extra $$$ if mostly used for gaming like me. The ram i bought is outstanding and on the ASUS QVL. The whole package went together really well.

Edited April 3, 2011 by Bolt-1

[genbrien]

Click on each item for a description....

 

HAF 932

I5 2500K @4.5

Asus P8P67 Deluxe

Patriot sector 5 Ram 8Gig's DC DDR3 9 9 9 24 @1600Mhz

Thermalright Silver Arrow HSF

EVGA GTX570

OCZ 120Gig Vertex2 SSD

500Gig caviar Black HDD

Corsair TX850 PSU

Sansung XL2370

W7 Pro 64

Holy Crap is this thing fast..

 

I just put this together about 2 weeks ago. I know you dont need it all. but in my opinion the 2600K isnt worth the extra $$$ if mostly used for gaming like me. The ram i bought is outstanding and on the ASUS QVL. The whole package went together really well.

thx for the link.

I only need the CPU/mobo/ram/heatsink.

Still dont know if I'm going for the 2600k or 2500k.

Would piss me off to buy a 2500k and not be able to overclock it over 4.5ghz:music_whistling::doh:. So I must still read to find how well the 2500k overclock compare to the 2600k:book:

 

EDIT: 4.5ghz is very good, I'm just a bit zealous for my overclocking lollll

EDIT2: read at some places that the 2500k overclock more than the 2600k.....

Edited April 3, 2011 by genbrien

[Cibit]

Yaay I found the overclockers thread:megalol:

[genbrien]

Yaay I found the overclockers thread:megalol:

speaking of overclockers, why have you not push your i7 further ???

[Cibit]

Mofset cooling and the fact the 295 gives off more heat than a chip shop.

I had the intention of W/C the GPU but never got round to it. The whole is in a coolermaster Cosmos so plenty room but lazyness is a factor too. When the 580 arrives next week the rig should run cooler and then I may get round to getting past 4.0:thumbup:

[genbrien]

ok so it's 90% confirmed(other 10% if girlfriend...:helpsmilie::music_whistling:) that Wednesday I'll buy that:

 

Intel I5 2500k +noctua nh-u12p http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59790&vpn=2500K%20%26%20NH%2DU12P%20SE2&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1306 Deals&promoid=1306

 

Asus P67 deluxe: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD5917&vpn=P8P67 DELUXE <REV 3.0>&manufacture=ASUS DELUXE <REV 3.0>&manufacture=ASUS

 

Corsair 2x4gb 9-9-9-24 : http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=53427&vpn=CMX8GX3M2A1333C9&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1306

 

So:

 

249.99+225.68+82.99=554$ of awsomness!!! (ohhh and free shipping :music_whistling:)

[genbrien]

Finally I bought 15min ago :

an I7 2600k +asus p67deluxe (510$) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60049&vpn=2600K%2DP8P67Deluxe&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals

+ mushkin ram (95$) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54963&vpn=996776&manufacture=Mushkin%20Enhanced

+ Zalman CNPS9900MAX (61$) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57906&vpn=CNPS9900MAX%2DR&manufacture=ZALMAN%20TECH

=666$ :D

 

I hope to receive it this week :music_whistling:

Edited April 10, 2011 by genbrien

[sobek]

Finally I bought 15min ago :

an I7 2600k +asus p67deluxe (510$) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60049&vpn=2600K%2DP8P67Deluxe&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals

+ mushkin ram (95$) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54963&vpn=996776&manufacture=Mushkin%20Enhanced

+ Zalman CNPS9900MAX (61$) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57906&vpn=CNPS9900MAX%2DR&manufacture=ZALMAN%20TECH

=666$ :D

 

Running DCS on max settings at 60+ frames(i presume), priceless! :D

[genbrien]

Running DCS on max settings at 60+ frames(i presume), priceless! :D

 

Sincerly, 2-3 weeks ago I was 50/50 for buying it. Running everthing at max, on ground having between 11 and 23fps, and in the air between 20 and 40. It was beautifull and playable, but sometimes a pain in the arse :music_whistling::D

But with 1.07, I was switching between planes with ''F2'' and got those MIGs21 in the mointains, and over 60fps:thumbup:

It was so much fluid, so much life-like, that I told myself ''screw the GF, I'll buy it anyway'':P:megalol:

If I'm lucky the package will ship from Ontario, wich should take less than a week to have it, if not, it'll ship from British Colombia and I'm pretty sure I'll have it only next week :cry:.

 

Gonna do a benchmark with my q9550, one with the 2600k stock, and one with the 2600k over 4.5ghz (I hope :music_whistling::joystick::D)

[Pteradon]

If I'm lucky the package will ship from Ontario, wich should take less than a week to have it, if not, it'll ship from British Colombia and I'm pretty sure I'll have it only next week :cry:.

 

Gonna do a benchmark with my q9550, one with the 2600k stock, and one with the 2600k over 4.5ghz (I hope :music_whistling::joystick::D)

 

 

Just curious, if you've your new computer up and running. ;)

[genbrien]

Just curious, if you've your new computer up and running. ;)

 

I've received my CPU and MB Tuesday, but the RAM was not shipped at the same time:mad::doh:. The RAM was shipped today, and I should received it tomorrow (I hope sooooooo much:music_whistling::joystick:). I dont know if I'll have time Saturday to assemble it.... If not, I'll only be able Wednesday, but be sure I'll post the results ASAP :thumbup:

[Bolt-1]

Genbrian, you are going to be very happy with your choices !!!

Look at what I just put together less than a month ago.

 

Click on each item for a description....

 

HAF 932

I5 2500K @4.5

Asus P8P67 Deluxe

Patriot sector 5 Ram 8Gig's DC DDR3 9 9 9 24 @1600Mhz

Thermalright Silver Arrow HSF

EVGA GTX570

OCZ 120Gig Vertex2 SSD

500Gig caviar Black HDD

Corsair TX850 PSU

Samsung XL2370

W7 Pro 64 bit

I am running FC2 at over 90 FPS and DCS at over 70 FPS average with all settings at max. @ 1920 X 1080 Res. (AND I MEAN MAX !!) The I5 2500K is incredible at OC. I'm at 4.5 now with very low temps. and will be pushing to 5.0 plus soon. In my opinion you'll be glad you chose the sandy bridge CPU whether it be the I7 2600K or the I5 2500K.

Edited April 14, 2011 by Bolt-1

[Madman777]

Sandy Bridge + DCS = Speechless.

[genbrien]

The RAM have been shipped yesterday from Ontario, should receive it today. Cant wait!!!!!!

 

Madman777: have you played DCs a-10 with an older CPU than your 2600k?

If so, what was it, what how much FPS did you gain

[Madman777]

The RAM have been shipped yesterday from Ontario, should receive it today. Cant wait!!!!!!

 

Madman777: have you played DCs a-10 with an older CPU than your 2600k?

If so, what was it, what how much FPS did you gain

 

Yes sir, I played both Blackshark and A-10C with the following;

 

Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz

4 GB RAM

40GB SSD

8800GT

Windows 7

 

I got about 20-30 FPS, on low settings mostly (A-10C). During a campaign mission, FPS was generally below 10, when near the target area.

 

With 2600K @ 4.8Ghz I'm getting 3x the FPS. During a campaign, with TGP on and lots of action going on, FPS will dip to 28-29. That is the lowest I've seen it.

 

Even at 4.0Ghz, I was seeing 50-60FPS. These CPU's are so easy to overclock so it doesn't make any sense to go below 4Ghz anyways.

[genbrien]

k thx. For me the badest FPS were on ground. Like in the Devil's Cross campagn, taxiing I have between 10 and 17fps. Or the ground training mission(wich starts on the runway) I have 17fps. What do you have (if you dont mind)

[Madman777]

k thx. For me the badest FPS were on ground. Like in the Devil's Cross campagn, taxiing I have between 10 and 17fps. Or the ground training mission(wich starts on the runway) I have 17fps. What do you have (if you dont mind)

 

On the ground I get 30-40FPS. BUT, when I look at other aircraft, especially other A-10C's, it drops to 17-20FPS. Only when I'm looking at other wingman. Soon as I look away jumps back up to 30-40FPS.

 

This happens during the Devils Cross Campaign. You need a super computer to get high FPS on the ground when looking at those other beautiful A-10C's.