celticcoho Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 he already told that the next jet is a very popular one, so Im settled with whatever comes, sure to be good. Seems everyone wants a BUG that can be killed with a Fly Swatter??? The AC-130 is the Deadiest A/C Made..And with More Covert or Special Forces Missions, WE need more of them?????:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 he already told that the next jet is a very popular one, so Im settled with whatever comes, sure to be good. No one said it would be a JET, only Fixed wing!!!!!!:music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
VincentLaw Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 No one said it would be a JET, only Fixed wing!!!!!!:music_whistling: Well I'm quite sure how good of a "fighter" the AC-130 makes, but ED already has the contract! http://www.thebattlesim.com/index.php?scr=news&news_sid=19&lang=en&end_pos=3. Honestly, I'll probably buy any module ED puts out, even if its DCS: C-2A®. (that would be a lot more fun than anything in FSX) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Stretch Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Not true, it was said to be a popular US fighter jet. Tim "Stretch" Morgan 72nd VFW, 617th VFS Other handles: Strikeout (72nd VFW, 15th MEU Realism Unit), RISCfuture (BMS forums) PC and Peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RISCfuture/saved/#view=DMp6XL Win10 x64 — BMS — DCS — P3D
celticcoho Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Well I'm quite sure how good of a "fighter" the AC-130 makes, but ED already has the contract! http://www.thebattlesim.com/index.php?scr=news&news_sid=19&lang=en&end_pos=3. Honestly, I'll probably buy any module ED puts out, even if its DCS: C-2A®. (that would be a lot more fun than anything in FSX) Not a Jet, But it can be Rocket assisted for take off, Does that count????:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Not true, it was said to be a popular US fighter jet. Popular US Fixed Wing, Only...Sorry:helpsmilie: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Well I'm quite sure how good of a "fighter" the AC-130 makes, but ED already has the contract! http://www.thebattlesim.com/index.php?scr=news&news_sid=19&lang=en&end_pos=3. Honestly, I'll probably buy any module ED puts out, even if its DCS: C-2A®. (that would be a lot more fun than anything in FSX) They have a Contract?????I won't go further....Contract is a Possibility???? Haven't seen any others!!!!!! :music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
slug88 Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Popular US Fixed Wing, Only...Sorry:helpsmilie: Nope, they definitely said it was going to be a fighter. It was in a separate statement that followed the "popular US fixed wing" announcement. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Nope, they definitely said it was going to be a fighter. It was in a separate statement that followed the "popular US fixed wing" announcement. But IF it Shoots back at you, then it is a Fighter????:music_whistling: The ac-130 has more avionics than any FAST MOVER you may be replying too??? Do you really think they would be Alone??? Edited April 1, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Any Kills at the outer reaches of Space is ok, But the combat teams on the ground need more effort from the eyes in the sky...AC-130 will bring it....as the a-10 also does...:thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 But do you really think you can outrun the ac-130 target lock on you, even in the air??:cry:I don't think so...:smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
VincentLaw Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Any Kills at the outer reaches of Space is ok, But the combat teams on the ground need more effort from the eyes in the sky...AC-130 will bring it....as the a-10 also does...:thumbup: F-18C service ceiling is about 15 km. Thats only 15% of the way to "space." :smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) F-18C service ceiling is about 15 km. Thats only 15% of the way to "space." :smilewink: So true, thats why I said, Do you think the AC-130 is alone???BUT if need be, the AC-130 WILL take you out at 15KM...:thumbup: Lock on, Your not fast enough!!! The Sky becomes a very bad place to Be!!! Did I say how accurate the 130 IS?? Edited April 1, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Cheers All, its been fun, Look at the capibilities of the AC-130..fits in well:doh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
RichardG Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Given the current (poor) state of wingman AI in both blackshark and A10, do you think they will be able to make AI wingman behave properly air to air combat? Proper cooperation and teamwork is critical in a dogfight or air to air engagement. Falcon 4 did it well. I'm skeptical it can be done in the DCS series.
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Given the current (poor) state of wingman AI in both blackshark and A10, do you think they will be able to make AI wingman behave properly air to air combat? Proper cooperation and teamwork is critical in a dogfight or air to air engagement. Falcon 4 did it well. I'm skeptical it can be done in the DCS series. I was speeking of the ability of the A/C, not DCS..The ac-130 will KILL you for Real....DCS, I don't know???? BUT what a great time to UP the AI.....:doh: Ac-130 is a command center in itself!!!! Edited April 1, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
Kuky Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 So true, thats why I said, Do you think the AC-130 is alone???BUT if need be, the AC-130 WILL take you out at 15KM...:thumbup: Lock on, Your not fast enough!!! The Sky becomes a very bad place to Be!!! Did I say how accurate the 130 IS?? Are you trying to say AC-130 will kill any fighter at 15Km? PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Are you trying to say AC-130 will kill any fighter at 15Km? Kury, I would not say that!! But Believe me they know your are there, and can respond like no other Fighter can? :thumbup: IF they have you LOCKED..You have No Hope!!!! Remember, it is their survival TOO!!! No one has better electronics than them...If they lock and choose to open up..SORRY!! Edited April 1, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Are you trying to say AC-130 will kill any fighter at 15Km? Kury, I would not say that!! But Believe me they know your are there, and can respond like no other Fighter can? :thumbup: No where to run, doesn't matter how fast your are!!! 5 mile fly zone is deadly:music_whistling: Five mile pattern at 12 to 15 miles, where does he go? Thats without A to A...They have that too, Mission Depending!!! And Please remember, The GUNS WILL Track the target!!!! They simply fly into their own Death. It is much worse than an a-10 gun run... Edited April 1, 2011 by celticcoho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
Kuky Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 You would not deploy the AC-130 if you don't have complete air superiority to begin with as any fighter can take it out long before 15Km range. That aircraft is designed for ground support, and would not be engaging fighters for sure no matter how much electronics it has, it's big... relatively slow and can't mouver that well (to dogfight or dodge missiles). It does have good countermeasures but that would be last resourt. PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Zomba Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I was thinking the same thing. An AC-130 in a high threat a2a environment is a complete no no. It would be completely outmatched in such a situation. It's an impressive aircraft well suited to it's intended role: ground support. I don't test for bugs, but when I do I do it in production.
VincentLaw Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Kury, I would not say that!! But Believe me they know your are there, and can respond like no other Fighter can? :thumbup: No where to run, doesn't matter how fast your are!!! 5 mile fly zone is deadly:music_whistling: Five mile pattern at 12 to 15 miles, where does he go? Thats without A to A...They have that too, Mission Depending!!! And Please remember, The GUNS WILL Track the target!!!! I'm sure flying an Su-25 in the cone of fire of an AC-130 is more dangerous than flying the A-10C head on at the Ka-50, but the AC-130 is far from an air superiority fighter. The effective range of guns against air targets is far shorter than missiles, no matter how much autotracking they have. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 The AC-130 is a remarkable aircraft, if you learn it!! The fast movers can have their space and time, Push come to shove...Anything but the AC=130 to deal with....Cheers all, Enjoy [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I never said it would replace a Fast Mover fighter, just that it can defend itself if required!!!!I always said, IT is never alone!! But what it can do, Air or ground is amazing!!!!Personally , I don't want to see it in any battle I might have...Cheers All' I guess it's time for Multi Missions???? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
celticcoho Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 TY to all who responded... Makes for interesting comment!!! Fast, it is not, POWERFUL it is... Cheers, Jim [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
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