dooom Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 i currently have an e8500 dual core at 3.2ghz... will a10c utilize more than 2 cores if they are available? ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
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WarriorX Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 From the FAQ Sticky at the top of this forum: "Q: Does DCS: A-10C use all cores on my CPU? A: Not fully. It does include the new sound engine which operates in a separate thread, and does take advantage of some DirectX threading features when running on Windows Vista or 7." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
dooom Posted March 30, 2011 Author Posted March 30, 2011 great - so a faster dual core trumps a lower speed quad. thanks ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
Rainmaker Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 i currently have an e8500 dual core at 3.2ghz... will a10c utilize more than 2 cores if they are available? That's the exact reason I am just staying with my E8400 when I bought my two extra monitors and a new video card to run Eyefinity the other day. Upgrading to 4 cores for the purpose of seeing performance in this game doesn't really make good sense to me. However, I do plan on overclocking mine a little to about 3.6-3.8. If you unfamiliar, the E8400 and 8500 run off of 45nm technology and with a good aftermarket cooler, are OUTSTANDING at being overclocked a little. These chips even come from Intel with a multiplier built into them for the specific purpose of people overclocking them. My stock speed is a 3.0, and people often run them at 4.0+ just with an air cooling system. There is a reason these chips still go for $160+ on newegg and everywhere else. They are the best dual core chips that can be had and still have some life left in them as far as performance goes.
636_Castle Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 great - so a faster dual core trumps a lower speed quad. thanks Not necessarily. Don't forget processing power to run Windows. Quad CPUs have two dedicated cores to run it on. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] How To Fix Your X-52's Rudder!
Steel Jaw Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Quad core support please >_> <_< Good luck with that. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Creelers Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Good luck with that. I can dream :P Cba overclocking.
sobek Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 [...] On the other hand, the newer gen chips give you more performance per cycle, so it's not like a 4 GHz core 2 can trump a lower clocking sandy bridge. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Rainmaker Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 On the other hand, the newer gen chips give you more performance per cycle, so it's not like a 4 GHz core 2 can trump a lower clocking sandy bridge. I totally agree with you there. My simple point was that it's not really an "outdated" chip as of yet. I wouldn't buy one if I was in the market for an upgrade, but I am happy at this point with keeping it. From our standpoint(ye is probably in the same boat I assume), a chip upgrade will also cost us a new MB and memory. The E series still runs on a 775 chipset. I can't even get up to a I series without upgrading the Mobo. Granted, in my case, the motherboard will accept a quad core chip...but nothing that would really be in terms considered a step ahead of a E series with a small clock. I ran some numbers the other day, a new setup would run me in the $400's for SB chip. When I really put it to thought, I don't think that $400 would get me a $400 performance upgrade in terms of DCS. That and ARMA are my two main performers on my box, so it didn't make much sense to me. Everyone has their own opinion on it though, mine is just one of them... 1
Pteradon Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I was also curious about the performance if i went from a dual to a quad. After reading this topic, i will stick with the computer i have now. Asus ROG Crosshair X870E Hero | Ryzen 9 9950X3D | G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 64GB | Samsung 9100 PRO m2 4TB | ASUS Astral RTX 5090 LC | TM AVA | TM Viper TQS | TM TPR pedals | WinWing Super Taurus | WinWing TopGun MIP | TrackIR 5 | Windows 11
ttaylor0024 Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Quad core support please >_> <_< How about 6-core support?
Creelers Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 How about 6-core support? Wo son, one step at a time :P
Bvoiash Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 For now a dual core CPU will be fine as long as you don't run too many other programs in the background.
Call911 Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Quad core support please >_> <_< Ditto give me some AMD Phenom IIx4 3.20ghz love please.
EtherealN Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I ran some numbers the other day, a new setup would run me in the $400's for SB chip. When I really put it to thought, I don't think that $400 would get me a $400 performance upgrade in terms of DCS. Everything depends on how one values one's money, of course, but after moving from 4GHz e8500 to 4.4GHz Sandy Bridge I can say I do greatly enjoy 60FPS with all settings maxed. :P (Though okey, in windowed mode I do go down to around 40 when low over Batumi.) That comparison does rely heavily on me also having upgraded the GPU though, so it's not really a fair comparison. But don't underestimate the possible gains from the C2D-SandyBridge switch - it's not only extra cores for the OS to live in, it's also integrated memory and PCIe controllers which adds it's own benefits. But obviously, even then it's very much a question of how one values those 400 dollars. I'm just a total nerd and will eat noodles for a month if it means letting me buy some new gadget. :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Bvoiash Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Won't you get sick of noodles though EtherealN at the end of the month :)? Though having said that I probably would do the same if the situation really calls for it. Something that hopefully will never happen :).
EtherealN Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Won't you get sick of noodles though EtherealN at the end of the month :)? Though having said that I probably would do the same if the situation really calls for it. Something that hopefully will never happen :). Noodles, yeah... Probably. But as it stands right now I have like... two... different foods I make when home anyway, just out of habit, so it wouldn't be a dramatic change. :P (Pasta with Meatballs and Double-Egg sandwiches being the two.) But anyway, guys, you should remember that less games than you might think actually makes use of four cores. For example, UnrealEngine3 games use two. (I don't know about UE 3.5.) And quite often games that use four won't saturate the extra cores anyhow (Cliffs of Dover, Rise of Flight, etcetera) meaning that you aren't scaling up linearly with those extra cores. For myself, my chief enjoyment of having a 4-core is either when running Folding@Home (8 threads running as I type :) ) or through allowing greater multitasking. For example, play simulator on one screen, watch AlJazeera stream on the second stream. Such things - you basically end up being able to almost completely ignore background processes while playing, which is a great convenience. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Bvoiash Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Yeah, at the moment that is certainly one of the uses of more than dual core CPUs. That is until more and more games use more and more of the extra cores.
sobek Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 For myself, my chief enjoyment of having a 4-core is either when running Folding@Home (8 threads running as I type :) ) or through allowing greater multitasking. For example, play simulator on one screen, watch AlJazeera stream on the second stream. Such things - you basically end up being able to almost completely ignore background processes while playing, which is a great convenience. Why aren't you running the GPU-driven version of folding@home? Smokes any CPU by a large margin. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Kaitsu Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I got huge improvement in fps by upgrading from E8500 to i5 2500K. MHz is about the same with both of them (3.16 vs 3.3). Just ordered GTX 570 for 262e and we'll see how much performace gain I get with it. :) Using GTX 260 for now.
EtherealN Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Why aren't you running the GPU-driven version of folding@home? Smokes any CPU by a large margin. I'm running both, but the SMP client really was the one that was relevant to this discussion. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
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