DCS A-10C - more dense grass

[GregP]

Thanks Kuky for all your work :D this and the distance mod make the game look effin sexy!

 

Agreed! I made these two changes last night and WOW, what a difference, totally worth the 1-2 FPS I think I lost. Thanks Kuky!

 

Regarding 'clutterMaxDistance', though -- after I exit the game, I see that DCS has set it back to 500. Kuky, did you make your file read-only so that it wouldn't do this?

[Shaman]

Looks great :) DCS: A-10C from MUD MOVER to LAWN MOWER :P

[Mustang]

I was just thinking, how nice this tweak will look in DCS Black Shark, once it gets the same graphics engine as Warthog....

[soupyc]

As an aside, I have to say to ED that I LOVE the lua file option name for this...'smallshit' GG! :D

[Kuky]

Regarding 'clutterMaxDistance', though -- after I exit the game, I see that DCS has set it back to 500. Kuky, did you make your file read-only so that it wouldn't do this?

didn't think of it... I'll try it... does it work though and options.lua won't be overwritten? :huh:

 

I was just thinking, how nice this tweak will look in DCS Black Shark, once it gets the same graphics engine as Warthog....

hm.... just thinking about it :joystick:

 

As an aside, I have to say to ED that I LOVE the lua file option name for this...'smallshit' GG! :D

I thought the same thing :megalol:

[skeemo]

For the guys, where the game does not load:

Make sure, you dont use windows' notepad, as it will mess up the lua files.

Use Notepad++ !

[Napa]

For the guys, where the game does not load:

Make sure, you dont use windows' notepad, as it will mess up the lua files.

Use Notepad++ !

 

also silly question as most know this but checking anyway, did you use regular notepad to edit or notepad++?

 

:lol: Obviously I didn't use notepad++ :doh:

 

Thanks for the heads up :P

Edited April 15, 2011 by Innerloop

[Sticky]

Thanks Kuky! I took it a few steps further than you did and have very dense grass now. But still at short ranges only, since it still looks bad from anything but really low, because of the shimmering. If only something could be done about the shimmering of the grass.

 

This good thread shouldnt be back here at page 2, ill send it back to the top :) (for now :) )

[Mustang]

Thanks Kuky! I took it a few steps further than you did and have very dense grass now. But still at short ranges only, since it still looks bad from anything but really low, because of the shimmering. If only something could be done about the shimmering of the grass.

 

This good thread shouldnt be back here at page 2, ill send it back to the top :) (for now :) )

 

Whats your video card? Try forcing either Adaptive AA (ATI) or Transparency AA (nVidia) through your display driver control panel, it should alleviate the shimmering of the grass.

[Kuky]

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Edited January 2, 2012 by Kuky

[Steel Jaw]

["clutterMaxDistance"] = 2500,

 

What is the default value please?

[Sticky]

Whats your video card? Try forcing either Adaptive AA (ATI) or Transparency AA (nVidia) through your display driver control panel, it should alleviate the shimmering of the grass.

 

Thanks, I just tried it, using nvidia inspector instead, I couldnt remove grass shimmering completely, but defintaly lower it to an acceptable low level with sparse grid supersampling, but this gave too much of an fps hit, so ill lower it to only 2x sparse grid AA, or turn it off completely. But its nice to see what it could look like with another generation of graphics card updates.

 

 

and here's how you can change distance in Options so you don't have to manually edit the Options.lua file

 

With these changes, what do you put in clutterdistance field now? Or it doesnt matter anymore right? Ingame options sets that for us with your new changes?

 

but I find now with all the nice graphics I need a much better video card .....

 

Yeah I was just thinking the same thing when trying to AA away the grass shimmering.

[Mustang]

["clutterMaxDistance"] = 2500,

 

What is the default value please?

 

Believe it's 500

[MadTommy]

I've just tried this but i'm noticing no difference??

 

I did as the 1st post suggested..

 

options.ua from saved games folder:

["clutterMaxDistance"] = 2500, -- 500

And terrain.cfg.lua from Bazar\Terrain

smallshit =
{
heightMapSize = 512;
files = 
{
	{
		name = "grass";
		texture = "SmallShit_Grass.dds";
		slope = 0.8;
		slopeDelta = 0.3;		
		layers =
		{
			{
		squareSize = 40.0; -- original 200
		 scale = 1.2;
		 },
		 {
		squareSize = 12.0; -- original 60			
			}
		};		
	}

 

Am i missing something?? :helpsmilie:

[Kuky]

Don't know what you are missing... have you seen post 35? This is even better looking and no need to keep manually editing Options.lua file as with those changes you can change distance in game options

[MadTommy]

Don't know what you are missing... have you seen post 35? This is even better looking and no need to keep manually editing Options.lua file as with those changes you can change distance in game options

 

Thanks Kuky, i had seen #35 but i thought i'd just try the basic 1st.

 

I just followed #35 and am seeing the correct results, thanks a lot, (not sure why it did not work 1st time though!)

 

Rep inbound for this & the increased town view mod!1 :thumbup:

 

(...Pfft.. can't rep you.. love needs to be spread about!)

 

EDIT: this kills my fps.. so i've had to leave it aside.

Edited June 14, 2011 by MadTommy

[Kuky]

Thanks Kuky, i had seen #35 but i thought i'd just try the basic 1st.

 

I just followed #35 and am seeing the correct results, thanks a lot, (not sure why it did not work 1st time though!)

 

Rep inbound for this & the increased town view mod!1 :thumbup:

 

(...Pfft.. can't rep you.. love needs to be spread about!)

 

EDIT: this kills my fps.. so i've had to leave it aside.

 

Here's what I do to compensate for the FPS loss with very high distance for cities and dense grass... I turn mirrors, HDR, TSAA off, don't use more then 4xAA and well, you need good video card, also I turn forests to about 8-10km and grass visibility distance to about 350m. With these I can run >20fps almost all the time, only if I am over populated area and have both TGP and Mavericks on it'll go down in 10's... and on worst case (next to very large city with aircraft around me etc) it'll go to single digits :D Still, as when it's that low it's most extreme situation and when in air it's nicely over 20fps, bit high and it'll stay at 30fps (that's my capped FPS) and that's still playable. I could decrease it a bit but I like the more natural visibility and grass is too sparse on default for my taste.

 

EDIT: if I set grass from 350m to 180m I get about 10% better FPS so I might decrease it like now and stick to that until I get better video card :) (HD7000 where are you?)

Edited June 18, 2011 by Kuky

[MadTommy]

Cheers Kuky, but TSAA, AA, HDR etc are too important for me, i have them all set very high or on. The increased town views is sweet and gives me good fps, but unfortunately this grass mod is a killer. For the time being i've turned grass off entirely.

 

Any more tweaks up your sleeve? :)

[Kuky]

Nope, that's about it I'm afraid :)

[Mustang]

I have one for you guys, check this post if you want to have crisp detailed land textures

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1231737&postcount=32

 

the results of those settings

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1230895&postcount=28

Edited June 22, 2011 by Mustang

[MadTommy]

Nice one Mustang, I'll give it a go! Cheers.

[Scudslaker]

kuky, can you pls. tell your pc spec. i m interested cause of your fps results.

[Kuky]

I currently run following:

 

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit

12GB Corsair 9-9-9-25 DDR3

Asus Maximum III Formula

Intel i7 950 @ 4GHz

ATI HD5870 1GB (running 24" 1920x1080 & 2x 8" 800x600, sim running windowed mode 1920x1800)

Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe

Corsair HX850W PSU

7" touchscreen

HOTAS Cougar

LeoBodnar USB controler

 

in game I use all High except water is medium, civ-traffic sometimes off sometimes medium, HDR is off, mirrors are off, grass set to 200m with high density tweak, treees 9000m, TSAA off, 4xAA, cockpit displays 1024 every frame, in ATI CCC AA is set to Adoptive AA and with these settings I run most of the time above 20fps, only in situtations where I am on runways/base with few high poly aircrafts I get FPS in 10's... but there are some extreme cases where I end up in single digit FPS :D

[Scudslaker]

thanks kuky,..i m looking to get a 2600k before trying your tweaks..but anyway rep inbound for your find!)

 

cheers

SCUDy

[Migo]

4xAA, cockpit displays 1024 every frame

Why do you set it to every frame ? It's a big performance killer, what's your benefit from this ?

 

greetings, Migo