Cibit Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hi mission makers and assorted peeps:) My concept for a more dynamic mission was to add a playable AFAC flight. Question 1 would a real AFAC have a wingman? Question 2 are there enough people prepared to not bomb things and be prepared to lase, share spi, mark with WP etc to make it a viable use of my time? apart from me;) I am thinking of having maybe 15 different targets and have the afac choose from them. Also is it possible to have a seperate briefing for the flights or seperate messages in game. Co-ordinates sent only to AFAC who then calls up the flight for the tasking? Be interesteing to know what people think of the idea:thumbup: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 You're going to have a tough time sending coordinates to only one player without using lua scripting, and modifications to server.lua. Unless you make that one player an enemy so you can use "Message to Coalition". I love the AFAC role, after expending my bombs I will often spend my time spotting out targets for other MP aircraft, if they need it. Personally, I think Black Shark's gonna be where it's at with AFAC in the future, at least I hope. Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winz Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Question 1 would a real AFAC have a wingman? They would. Atleast in Kosovo they had. The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTJS17_Fire Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Question 1 would a real AFAC have a wingman? In Kosovo, I don't know. But in ODS, OEF and OIF the AFACs were often working alone. Question 2 are there enough people prepared to not bomb things and be prepared to lase, share spi, mark with WP etc to make it a viable use of my time? apart from me I think so. I like the AFAC role, too. Just a few Willy Petes, maybe 1 or 2 Mavs and a lot of time to "play" with my TGP and the datalink, talk to other guys, help them and cruising. Also is it possible to have a seperate briefing for the flights or seperate messages in game. Co-ordinates sent only to AFAC who then calls up the flight for the tasking? Not realistic but you can set A-10s to other countries. Then you can trigger text messages via "message to country". Maybe there are other and more realistic solutions. kind regards, Fire Hardware: Intel i5 4670K | Zalman NPS9900MAX | GeIL 16GB @1333MHz | Asrock Z97 Pro4 | Sapphire Radeon R9 380X Nitro | Samsung SSDs 840 series 120GB & 250 GB | Samsung HD204UI 2TB | be quiet! Pure Power 530W | Aerocool RS-9 Devil Red | Samsung SyncMaster SA350 24" + ASUS VE198S 19" | Saitek X52 | TrackIR 5 | Thrustmaster MFD Cougar | Speedlink Darksky LED | Razor Diamondback | Razor X-Mat Control | SoundBlaster Tactic 3D Rage ### Software: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Thanks for the feedback. Probably make 2 flyable AFAC planes then the choice is down to players. Guess whoever flies those slots will get proficient at creating markpoints and changing laser codes:) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Update. I am going to give the AFAC search boxes made up of waypoints. Maybe 10 boxes spread over the AO with multiple targets in each box. Box sizes maybe 10K x 10K square. Question Can there be a way to set muliple flight plans and script which one is chosen. I am thinking about randomisation here:smilewink: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTJS17_Fire Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Update. I am going to give the AFAC search boxes made up of waypoints. Maybe 10 boxes spread over the AO with multiple targets in each box. Box sizes maybe 10K x 10K square. 10kilometers x 10kilometers? That's very small. That should be around 5nm x.5nm. As AFAC, with high altitude to find targets, you have to fly ... maybe 60° bank or more to stay in one box. And with a 60° bank, the TGP is masked very often. I'm working on a mission with killboxes - 20nm x 20nm per killbox. I can cruise at FL 200 and 5°-10° bank and don't overfly the box borders. IIRC, the killboxes during ODS were 40nm x 40nm. Question Can there be a way to set muliple flight plans and script which one is chosen. As far as I know: No. The flightplan which you "draw" in the ME is the only one, which can be set by the mission builder. If pilots want to fly another route, they have to create it in the cockpit. kind regards, Fire Hardware: Intel i5 4670K | Zalman NPS9900MAX | GeIL 16GB @1333MHz | Asrock Z97 Pro4 | Sapphire Radeon R9 380X Nitro | Samsung SSDs 840 series 120GB & 250 GB | Samsung HD204UI 2TB | be quiet! Pure Power 530W | Aerocool RS-9 Devil Red | Samsung SyncMaster SA350 24" + ASUS VE198S 19" | Saitek X52 | TrackIR 5 | Thrustmaster MFD Cougar | Speedlink Darksky LED | Razor Diamondback | Razor X-Mat Control | SoundBlaster Tactic 3D Rage ### Software: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Hole Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 ^^^^^ Or use the "Prepare Flight" option from the Editor and work it all out from the Players' pits. But that's a hassle. I think it easier just to defined the coordinates of the AOAs in the briefing and the player builds the flightplan himself. The briefing can be recalled with the ESC key and building the FP only takes about two minutes. But it does require some dedication on the part of the FAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks guys the mission making is underway. Found this while I was researching http://www.fas.org/man//dod-101/sys/ac/docs/11oa10v3.pdf Linked elsewhere but thought it worth putting here too:) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) Need a playtest of whats been done so far. I am unable to get enough people (seven) to play this evening. Anyone like to test it and give me feedback:) Pop onto teamsopeak 3 our address teamspeak.zeus-community.net:9987 Edited April 19, 2011 by Cibit i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 Seems the host is the only one gets the start SEAD radio message. I imagine a client/MP bug.? i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I can cruise at FL 200 and 5°-10° bank and don't overfly the box borders. Tactically unrealistic? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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