dvas Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Hello to you all I would like to ask if training rounds of Mavericks and other weapons have any usage in the simulator. If for example, lets say in nevada, create a training scenario will the simulated attack have any results in the loogbook? Could training rounds be usefull in any training mission? If not it would be good if it could intergrated in another patch in accordance with an ACMI which will verify the results . After all how nany aircrews fired live ordance during training?:smilewink: Thanks in advance
Snoopy Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I use them all the time, BDU33s specifically and TP 30mm ammo. I do however carry a CAP9, TGP, training mavs (both TV & IR) to match our real world training loadouts. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
mvsgas Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Same here To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
dvas Posted June 6, 2011 Author Posted June 6, 2011 Thanks for the reply but the results can be seen in your loogbook or not? How do i know if i made a succesfull run in and attack ontarget? Thanks again
mvsgas Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I will try it out at let you know later, I do not think it is implemented. Training weapons is more to practice using the weapons systems without destroying the target. Making easier to practice. That way you don't have to place 100 vehicle, you can keep attacking the few and practice the systems. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Snoopy Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Yeah don't think it shows up in the log book.... v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
Sappo Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Was also wondering this myself... IE: why use training ammo when the real stuff costs the same amount :) Other than the above listed not having to place more than 1 target
Snoopy Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Was also wondering this myself... IE: why use training ammo when the real stuff costs the same amount :) Other than the above listed not having to place more than 1 target For me because it is a lot harder getting a BDU-33 directly on target then dropping a mrk82 and getting a kill because of vicinity impacts. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
TAIPAN_ Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Was also wondering this myself... IE: why use training ammo when the real stuff costs the same amount :) Other than the above listed not having to place more than 1 target Because ideally the logbook should only show kills from actual real missions. The other way to do it is to create a practice pilot, then you can still watch things blow up without putting fake kills in the logbook :) Pimax Crystal VR & Simpit User | Ryzen CPU & Nvidia RTX GPU | Some of my mods
EvilBivol-1 Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 The primary reason training munitions are not used in the training missions is that we have not yet developed a good way of tracking their impact locations. However, this is something we still wish to include. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
Snoopy Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 The primary reason training munitions are not used in the training missions is that we have not yet developed a good way of tracking their impact locations. However, this is something we still wish to include. Nice....I still use them tracked or not...I posted a video today showing me dropping BDU-33s on youtube. First drop is about 1:30 into the video. OUK6CBVauEw v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
titanium Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I want to pulverize tanks with concrete dang it! http://defensetech.org/2011/04/29/france-using-concrete-bombs-in-libya/ I am the alpha and the omega
dvas Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 Great news if ED will implement it in future patches.....keep up the great work guys
Rainmaker Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Was also wondering this myself... IE: why use training ammo when the real stuff costs the same amount :) Other than the above listed not having to place more than 1 target For real life reasons, it has to do with the same as above as well as range restrictions. Dropping a bunch of live weapons just destroys the practice targets that are on the range, as well as creating a huge hazard to anyone who has to maintain the range. As for range restrictions...for instance in the US there are not that many live ranges that are certified to have live ordinance expended from aircraft. The bigger areas are down in Florida, Nevada, Utah, etc...places like that. The inert weapons allow actual weapons release and guidance training without the effect of the big booms. The Dare County range in NC for instance cannot do live weapons as it is out in marsh lands. But, pilots from all over the east coast use it to drop inert weapons all day long. For our pilots to do any kind of live training, they have to fly to Florida or attend one of the live fire excercises such as Red/Green flag out west or down south.
Spectre_USA Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 A range or 3 at Nellis would be a wonderful thing. Here's hoping the point scoring of such items can be figured out... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A tale of 2 hogs
Rainmaker Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I want to pulverize tanks with concrete dang it! http://defensetech.org/2011/04/29/france-using-concrete-bombs-in-libya/ This tactic was "very" close to being used again in 2003....
REL Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Is GAU-8 Target Practice Round (TP) making the target explode in the Sim? I haven't got to try this yet ...
Evil.Bonsai Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Yes, 378g of 30mm steel going 1021m/s will still cause damage. BDU-33 is good to carry 12+ for practice with a nice lasting smoke charge. PGU-15 rounds are very nice to actually see the bullets in mid-air and shows exactly why you should never overfly the target on a gun run! Hah! Never thought to try that. That was pretty cool. Some nice screen shots.
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