1.1.0.9 top light (& bottom) ON?

[majapahit]

1.1.0.9 top light (& bottom) ON?

 

is it me

or are top white light (& bottom) ON?

and i cannot swith them off

- shouldnt they switch with NAV lights?

 

or what am i missing :cry:

[Snoopy]

They aren't part of the position lights, the position lights are the red & green wingtip lights and tail light.

[majapahit]

They aren't part of the position lights, the position lights are the red & green wingtip lights and tail light.

thats what i thought

so my white lights are on

 

can they be switch off seperately

(like in: OFF so only my green night lights are turned up)

[Nate--IRL--]

No they are part of the formation lights AFAIK. Paulrkiii would be able to say definitively though.

 

Nate

[mark35444]

I had someone check this externally in Multiplayer and they couldn't see them while flying next to me, Even though I could still see it on myself?

 

Also this is just a question for the ED team, Does the A-10 have a Rotating Red Beacon like every other aircraft?

[majapahit]

No they are part of the formation lights AFAIK. Paulrkiii would be able to say definitively though.

 

Nate

I switch off NAV lights

I turn up night formation lights

 

there's 2 bright white lights top & bottom

I cannot switch these off

 

something doesnt make sense, what do you say Watson

[=Panther=]

Also this is just a question for the ED team, Does the A-10 have a Rotating Red Beacon like every other aircraft?

 

Not ED team but I hope you don't mind me answering. I work on the hawg and to answer your question, no there's no rotating red beacon. IIRC only heavy aircraft have them, likely smaller transport planes too. I know the F-16, F-15, F-22, and A-10 do not have it.

[Nate--IRL--]

I switch off NAV lights

I turn up night formation lights

 

there's 2 bright white lights top & bottom

I cannot switch these off

 

something doesnt make sense, what do you say Watson

 

This is correct. See page 1-142 and 1-143 of the TO 1A-10A-1 and TO 1A-10A-1-1 here ---> http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1015425&postcount=3

 

White formation lights are installed on the lower out-

side of each vertical fin and at the top and bottom of the fuselage aft of the cockpit, to serve as a reference for formation flying. The formation lights are

powered by the left AC bus.

 

On I W6J aircraft, white formation lights are

insta e on the lower outside of each vertical fin

and at the top and bottom of the fuselage aft of the

cockpit. Green electroluminescent formation lights

are installed on the outside of each vertical fin, at

top and bottom of aft fuselage between vertical

fins, behind and both sides below the cockpit on the

fuselage and wing tips. These lights serve as a

reference for formation flying. The formation

lights are powered by the left AC bus.

 

Nate

[majapahit]

This is correct. See page 1-142 and 1-143 of the TO 1A-10A-1 and TO 1A-10A-1-1 here ---> http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1015425&postcount=3

Nate

not quite sure what you infer with 'correct'

my - wild - guess would be, the top and bottom white lights

should be switched with the Nav (position) lights (or its done by mind control)

 

that is what you mean?

 

your link to the official flight procedures doesnt shed light (pardon the pun) of how the top/bottom lights are switched

 

anyone with still 1.1.0.8 installed? cant remember 2 white lights with night formation

[Nate--IRL--]

The behaviour in 1.1.0.9 is correct according the Official Flight manuals from the USAF, as I posted above.

 

The Top and Bottom Lights are part of the same system as the Luminescent strips (Formation Lights). If the green strips are on, so are the top and bottom lights.

 

Nate

[majapahit]

The behaviour in 1.1.0.9 is correct according the Official Flight manuals from the USAF, as I posted above.

 

The Top and Bottom Lights are part of the same system as the Luminescent strips (Formation Lights). If the green strips are on, so are the top and bottom lights.

 

Nate

in 1.1.0.8 the white lights turn Off with the formation lights (thank you backup folder)

 

"The Top and Bottom Lights are part of the same system as the Luminescent strips (Formation Lights)"

 

can anyone confirm this

have 'obscure' green formation lights accompanied by bright white positioning light

(hit me hit me)

 

?

 

"The behaviour in 1.1.0.9 is correct according the Official Flight manuals from the USAF, as I posted above."

a reference to an exact line/paragraph would be welcome

(these manuals remind me of college, these days i get paid for trauma based education :cry:)

Edited July 26, 2011 by majapahit

[Snoopy]

in 1.1.0.8 the white lights turn Off with the formation lights (thank you backup folder)

 

"The Top and Bottom Lights are part of the same system as the Luminescent strips (Formation Lights)"

 

can anyone confirm this

have 'obscure' green formation lights accompanied by bright white positioning light

(hit me hit me)

 

?

 

"The behaviour in 1.1.0.9 is correct according the Official Flight manuals from the USAF, as I posted above."

a reference to an exact line/paragraph would be welcome

(these manuals remind me of college, these days i get paid for trauma based education :cry:)

 

0.8 the lighting was incorrect, 0.9 reflects correct lighting per the 1A-10C-1. Giving you the exact line/paragraph wouldn't do you any good unless you have a copy of the C-1 but just to keep you smiling ;)

 

External Lighting is covered starting on page 1-368.48 thru 1-370.

 

Position Lights.

The position lights consist of red (left side) and green (right

side) lights in the wing tips, and a white light at the fuselage

tail. A dimmer control and a steady/flash/off control switch are

provided to activate and control the position lights. In addition,

the position lightsmay be overridden by themaster exterior light

switch on the left throttle grip (Figure 1-5). The position lights

are powered by the right DC bus.

 

Strobe Anti-Collision Lights.

The strobe anti-collision lights are white, high intensity lights,

mounted at each wing tip and on the fuselage tail. The strobe

lights are powered by the left DC bus and are synchronized to

flash simultaneously.

 

Formation Lights.

White formation lights are installed on the lower outside of each

vertical fin and at the top and bottom of the fuselage aft of the

cockpit. Green electroluminescent formation lights are installed

on the outside of each vertical fin, at top and bottom of aft fuselage

between vertical fins, behind and below both sides of the

cockpit on the fuselage and wing tips. These lights serve as a

reference for formation flying. The formation lights are powered

by the left AC bus.

 

Nose Floodlights.

A lighting fixture is installed in each aileron actuator fairing to

illuminate both sides of the fuselage nose section. These lights

are used as formation lights and during air refueling, and are

controlled by the formation lights switch. A separate switch is

provided for turning off the nose floodlights only.

 

Nacelle Floodlight.

A nacelle floodlight is incorporated with the top fuselage formation

light. This light floodlights the engine nacelle area during

air refueling. The nacelle floodlight is controlled and dimmable

by the air refueling light switch. So that the light will also be

available during formation flying, it is not interlocked with the

air refuel control. The second lamp functions as the formation

light and is controlled by the formation lights switch.

[majapahit]

Formation Lights.

White formation lights are installed on the lower outside of each

vertical fin and at the top and bottom of the fuselage aft of the

cockpit.

well, hardcopy doesnt lie, i suppose

(now I can complain about missing white lights on the lower fin, BUT I WONT :P)

 

is there any operational logic to this?

or perhaps these white light are known to disappear from a certain distance at night?

 

anyway, thx for answer

[Snoopy]

well, hardcopy doesnt lie, i suppose

(now I can complain about missing white lights on the lower fin, BUT I WONT :P)

 

is there any operational logic to this?

or perhaps these white light are known to disappear from a certain distance at night?

 

anyway, thx for answer

 

Are you talking the formation lights on the verticals? They are there in 0.9, they illuminate the tail flash...You've got the green strip lights and the light that points up illuminating the tail.

[majapahit]

Are you talking the formation lights on the verticals? They are there in 0.9, they illuminate the tail flash...You've got the green strip lights and the light that points up illuminating the tail.

oopsie, you're right, nice and tiny

also

I now noticed all the white formation light respond to the dimmer

answers all my questions

(they seem a lot more 'functional' when I dim them 1/2 down, the full bright is what had me wondering)

 

well done ED

[Snoopy]

Yes, the exterior lights finally work like they should with only one exception...

 

Paul, what's the deal with the pinky switch forward position? Over different versions it's done wildly different things. In 1109 it's forcing not only the formation lights and nose floods on at a preset level, but also the nacelle lights! Isn't this wrong? Isn't it supposed to retain control as set at the panel for those things?

 

I'll take a look this afternoon when I get off work but below is how the -1 states it works. Off the top of my head the only thing that may not be right is the formation lights. I'm thinking the formation lights come on in 0.9 with the switch forward but I could be thinking of a past build.

 

Master Exterior Light Switch.

The master exterior light switch is a three-position switch

mounted on the left engine throttle grip (Figure 1-5). The

forward position of the master exterior light switch controls the

following:

 

• Retention of illumination level set on panel for formation

lights, nose floodlights and nacelle floodlights

• Changes position lights from bright to dim steady

• Removes power from the anti-collision solenoid switch so

that the switch automatically returns to OFF.

[latearrival]

I knew I was in for a steep learning curve when I bought the beta, but who would have thought something as simple as a few exterior lights could be so complicated... I love it!!!