US Boxed PC Version

[EtherealN]

Not blaming DCS but it sure seems like somebody, your distributor perhaps, is trying to prove the market by taking orders, before commiting to providing the product.

 

Let's create a hypothetical scenario where stores can only make money on carrying a product (which isn't true, but for argument), will they still carry anything? No. They want a high throughput between deliveries and sales, because the faster you can move units, the faster you make money. (Velocity of money, or ROI term. My terminology might be off though since I'm translating it as best I can.) Vendors have limited infrastructure to move units, and limited shelf-space to offer wares to their customers. This means that whenever something is "suspect" from a business perspective (for example through being a niche product), they'll be extremely careful about buying in, because the infrastructure and shelf-space could be used pushing a high-volume mainstream product.

 

In economic terms, it's called "opportunity cost" - even if you don't lose money on the transaction itself, if you could have made more money on another transaction using the same resources, that's an "opportunity cost". This can be shelf space, infrastructure etcetera.

 

So yeah, unfortunately the fact is that it is extremely hard to "push" simulators through brick-and-mortar stores, because they can get a much quicker ROI through console shooters.

 

Or at least - they think they can. Up to all of us to prove them wrong. If you enter a store that doesn't carry it, please let them know how unhappy you are about that decision. That's the kind of stuff that can make things go faster in future. :)

[Wags]

Very well said. The other element at play is price point. The higher the price, the less likely retail is to carry a niche product.

[Specter1606688147]

Good to here the US boxed version is on its way. Any word on the printed manual (English, obviously)?

 

I'm guessing, with a manual that is over 300 pages, you will probably stand a better chance of printing it yourself then seeing it in the box:book:

[kylania]

I'm guessing, with a manual that is over 670 pages, you will probably stand a better chance of printing it yourself then seeing it in the box:book:

 

Fixed. :) And yeah, you'll probably get the manual PDF on the disk, like you do with the download, and not printed.

 

Here's hoping they have a nice printed version, but it's doubtful.

[Ramstein]

US retail units are currently in manufacture. I would not expect to seem them available in stores until late Oct / early Nov.

 

2 to 4 weeeks then maybe,, hopefully..:joystick:

[Specter1606688147]

2 to 4 weeeks then maybe,, hopefully..:joystick:

 

And the Nevada Expansion should follow shortly afterwards :pilotfly:

[Sndman]

I've been waiting myself but couldn't take it any more.

Downloaded the sim this morning and it is quite impressive to say the least. It was a huge mistake on my part to have A-10C, Black Shark, Rise of Flight and Cliffs of Dover on the hard drive all at the same time! I'll in divorce court by the end of the year.:pilotfly:

[Drifter]

Let's create a hypothetical scenario where stores can only make money on carrying a product (which isn't true, but for argument), will they still carry anything? No. They want a high throughput between deliveries and sales, because the faster you can move units, the faster you make money. (Velocity of money, or ROI term. My terminology might be off though since I'm translating it as best I can.) Vendors have limited infrastructure to move units, and limited shelf-space to offer wares to their customers. This means that whenever something is "suspect" from a business perspective (for example through being a niche product), they'll be extremely careful about buying in, because the infrastructure and shelf-space could be used pushing a high-volume mainstream product.

 

In economic terms, it's called "opportunity cost" - even if you don't lose money on the transaction itself, if you could have made more money on another transaction using the same resources, that's an "opportunity cost". This can be shelf space, infrastructure etcetera.

 

So yeah, unfortunately the fact is that it is extremely hard to "push" simulators through brick-and-mortar stores, because they can get a much quicker ROI through console shooters.

 

Or at least - they think they can. Up to all of us to prove them wrong. If you enter a store that doesn't carry it, please let them know how unhappy you are about that decision. That's the kind of stuff that can make things go faster in future. :)

Hard to argue, except the date keeps getting pushed back.

 

Some people these days (myself being a prime example) just can't afford games like the old days. I am pretty much only able to buy 1 or 2 games a year. I'm going to have to decide.. A-10 OR Battlefield 3, but not both. Which one hits the shelves 1st?

 

A or B?

A or B?

[EtherealN]

Sure, the date gets pushed back, but it's out of ED's hands.

 

I would indicate that digital delivery is always an option, but if you specifically want a "box" then sure. That part of the debate probably doesn't need to be re-hashed. (But I'm sure you can see why DD is such an awesome thing for a company like ED - games can be released when desired and doesn't have to sit there waiting for these brick and mortar stores to get things going.)

 

Personally speaking though, BF3 will not have the same longevity. There are very few games that have stayed on my hard drive as long as DCS:BS (and A-10C for that matter, which I have now played for more than a year). But I might be biased. :P

 

(And just in case you are curious, the games that have "lasted longer" are Frontier: Elite 2, IL-2, Space Empires 5, and Defcon. Sim City 4 stayed on for an impressive run, but it eventually grew old.)

[cichlidfan]

FYI,

 

Amazon is shipping, my email today:

 

We thought you'd like to know that we shipped your items, Your estimated delivery date is:

October 31, 2011

[kylania]

Amazon is shipping, my email today:

 

Aww... I had to cancel my order since I lost my job and didn't need to spend $40 for a game I already had. I'll pick a copy or two up later though! :pilotfly:

[cichlidfan]

Aww... I had to cancel my order since I lost my job and didn't need to spend $40 for a game I already had. I'll pick a copy or two up later though! :pilotfly:

 

That sucks about the job but at least you already had the game and Amazon will probably have it for sale for at least the next ten years!;)

[Specter1606688147]

Great to know. Sad news is that my fuel pump just quit on me and I'll have to have it replaced. Put I'm glad Amazon has this Sim now. I hope to get it as soon as I can.

[kylania]

Great to know. Sad news is that my fuel pump just quit on me and I'll have to have it replaced. Put I'm glad Amazon has this Sim now. I hope to get it as soon as I can.

 

... you've been waiting months for it! :noexpression: Put that on an Amazon Wishlist and we'll see what happens for you. :music_whistling:

[Specter1606688147]

... you've been waiting months for it! :noexpression: Put that on an Amazon Wishlist and we'll see what happens for you. :music_whistling:

 

Wish list?? :doh:

 

Now that sounds like a great idea :thumbup:

[Jona33]

FYI,

Your estimated delivery date is:

October 31, 2011

 

Ooh scary. Does this mean your hog will be a ghost.:lol:

[Ramstein]

Ooh scary. Does this mean your hog will be a ghost.:lol:

 

trick or treat?

:alien:

[Specter1606688147]

trick or treat?

:alien:

 

Only depends on which side of the war you're on :pilotfly:

[Lanzfeld]

Anyone know what version the US DVD is?

[Drifter]

Anyone know what version the US DVD is?

It's the long overdue version

 

[yea I know.. but it is meant as a joke] :pilotfly:

[Falco77]

The time draws closer I'll pick this up at Best Buy!

 

I know it's been discussed before but any word on whether ED will release a printed manual (separately of course) some time in the near future? I know there were plans but that was awhile ago and I'm wondering if plans have changed. I'd like to pick one up, but if not I'll have it printed at Office Max in black and white and spiral bound.

 

Just planning my "attack".

[cichlidfan]

Anyone know what version the US DVD is?

 

It is probably a version older than what I am currently running but If anyone gets one please let me know as I have no plans to open the box.;)

[Krebs20]

I saw it in best buy Madison tonight. Quality as always.

[EtherealN]

Anyone know what version the US DVD is?

 

I believe it's 1.1.0.9, but I'm not 100% on that.

[Specter1606688147]

At least it can be updated to the current version.