Sandy Bridge-E about to land

[EtherealN]

Here's a pretty in-depth test of one of the incoming products:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21987

 

Page 13 is especially interesting (the game tests before is about as lukewarm as we expect: extra cores give no tangible benefits in games), but on P13 we can see some more looks at the specifics of each core - and it is pretty much as expected:

 

 

A look at the single-thread operation, and comparing it with the "regular" sandies, reinforce the blandness of it as far as gaming is concerned in general with a hint on how useful it would be for DCS: that is, not very. It's almost a thousand dollars but should not be expected to purchase any performance benefits even if you are getting CPU-bottlenecked with your high-level sandies. Also considering that their review sample would not overclock quite as far as we've seen quite a few 2600K's go, it pretty much lands where I expected. Good for heavily multithreaded workstation jobs and movie rendering/encoding, folding and scientific workloads,, but not worth the money for consumer stuff.

[GhostDog]

Good info, thx.

[hassata]

2500K + OC seems like the sweet spot?

 

Edit: Taking bets on this thread descending into a 'why no multi-core' rant.

Edited November 15, 2011 by hassata

[Madman777]

The Core i7 3930K; 6 cores, 12 threads, 12 MiB cache, 3.2/3.8 GHz. When this is released, I think it's a better deal. Half the price of the 3960K and only 3MB less of cache.

 

What I really want to see is the 3930K overclocked. If we can get it up to 5Ghz easily, it will rock DCS completely.

 

I'm waiting for Ivy Bridge myself. Only had current system for 10 months.

[EtherealN]

What I really want to see is the 3930K overclocked. If we can get it up to 5Ghz easily, it will rock DCS completely.

 

By "rock DCS completely" you mean "give the same performance as a 2600K"? :P

[Madman777]

By "rock DCS completely" you mean "give the same performance as a 2600K"? :P

 

heheh yeah. I hope it can get up to 5Ghz 'easily'. My 2600k can do 5Ghz but it needs a crazy amount of voltage. If the 3930k can do 5Ghz without needing 1.5v.

 

2600k - Rock DCS completely.

3930k - Rock DCS completely + 1. :thumbup:

 

Either way, you are right. It's still not worth the upgrade for current Sandy Bridge owners.

[Pilotasso]

Ivy bridge with 4/8 cores/logical cores should be the sweetspot, you will hardly see any titles with more threads than this any time soon.

 

I will upgrade the CPU if overclocking results are promising since they will use same P67 motherboards.

[EtherealN]

I doubt the 3930K will OC easier than the 2600 though as far as voltages go - at least if the 3960X is representative. We'll see though, I guess, they may still surprise us - and of course, even if the initial samples can't do it, they might be able to do a process update to make them capable of that later.

 

I have higher faith in Ivy in this department, though I'm still not sure I'll upgrade to it. Might skip to Haswell.

[Pilotasso]

The CPU ill probably skip is Haswell due to the costs of the upgrade. I only have to switch the CPU nothing else.

[EtherealN]

True, but you'd eventually have to switch anyhow - Haswell will have it's own socket and chipset and the die shrink will as well, so we'll have to bite that bullet eventually.

[Pilotasso]

I have a longer upgrade period, usally 2 to 4 years with minor upgrades along the way to future proof it some more.

[EtherealN]

Ah, you're better at controlling your expenditures than I am then. :D

[emenance]

the CPU has a vitualization BUG , will screw with XP mode and you cant run VM ware right. The CPU is a failure. If they can fix the virtualization then I would get it. Im not that threlled going with a x58 chipset but it looks like thats what im going to have to do. X79 isnt worth it. If older software and stuff is no matter to you then whatever.

[sobek]

I have a longer upgrade period, usally 2 to 4 years with minor upgrades along the way to future proof it some more.

 

Oh dear, my current PC is aproaching 6 years now (not counting the CPU and G/C upgrade). :)

 

But it's time, the mainboard is doing funny things ever since i switched to the e8400 and overclocked it and the PSU noise is slightly discomforting. :)

[metalnwood]

I just read tomshardware review as well. I am happy I just threw a bit of cash at an i5 and clocked it to 4.5. From the benchmarks used its hard to say the improvement will be major.

 

Toms review did show a big jump in performance with the physics part of the 3d test. As we could guess the bf3 /crysis test etc all bottlenecked out on the gpu.

 

Usually upgrade my sim rig every 12-18 months, often to put in either the latest chip or the latest graphics card. The latest chiop usually requires a new MB/ram etc.

 

I think I am at the stage with a capped 30fps that is fairly constant that I don't feel the need to upgrade until I am getting closer to 50 capped.

 

First time I have not felt the desire to upgrade in a while.

[Pilotasso]

Oh dear, my current PC is aproaching 6 years now (not counting the CPU and G/C upgrade). :)

 

But it's time, the mainboard is doing funny things ever since i switched to the e8400 and overclocked it and the PSU noise is slightly discomforting. :)

 

well... longer than most enthusiasts, which I am but money doesnt grow on trees specially here (check avatar!).

[Conure]

I can't help but upgrade my PC every 8 months or so. After real world flying and my social life, I'd say computers and simming are probably my greatest passion! Come to think of it.... I need a new CPU:D

[Pilotasso]

Dont forget to get laid from time to time :D

 

EDIT: I mean not with your PC, I know some people see sparks when their in love but in this case could be harmfull!

[Conure]

Dont forget to get laid from time to time :D

 

EDIT: I mean not with your PC, I know some people see sparks when their in love but in this case could be harmfull!

 

hehe...I've tried to get my girlfriend interested but the second I start speaking about planes she switches off, that said, so do 99% of people! :D

[EtherealN]

I am perplexed at the concept of accepting a girlfriend who does not love aircraft...

[Conure]

I am perplexed at the concept of accepting a girlfriend who does not love aircraft...

 

We all have our bad points :D

[EtherealN]

Yeah, and some are forgivable (like, being a convicted murderer or watching Sex and the City), but some are not (like being disinterested in aircraft). :P

 

Get your priorities straight. :D

[MTFDarkEagle]

Nice CPU and chipset if you have the money to spend. If it gets cheaper it's certainly on my "possible upgrade"-list :D

 

For now though the 2600K still remains there. The X79 chipset and the LGA2011 is still faaaaaaaaaar to expensive for the performance. A squadmate just bought a new PC with a 2600K and he got 60-70FPS in BS1 and a steady 25-35FPS in BS2.

[EtherealN]

Hm. Whoops...

http://www.techpowerup.com/152978/Sandy-Bridge-E-VT-d-Broken-In-C1-Stepping-Fixed-In-C2-Stepping-Shortly-After-Launch.html

[Geskes]

hehe...I've tried to get my girlfriend interested but the second I start speaking about planes she switches off, that said, so do 99% of people! :D

 

I would GLADLY accept a woman that you cab switch off just by talking about airplanes :D

Most women I meet dont have an off switch at all.. they just keep on bitchin..