evilbadger Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Hi. Is there a way to detect an IR missile launch ? badger
BuzzU Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Other than spotting it with your eyes. I don't think so. Buzz
evilbadger Posted September 14, 2005 Author Posted September 14, 2005 So I'm lost if the missile launches behind me? ;)
Krendel Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Theoretically you can detect it, because missile is a quickly moving heat source.But I don't know anything about operating systems
britgliderpilot Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Theoretically you can detect it, because missile is a quickly moving heat source.But I don't know anything about operating systems You can do better - you can detect it and aim an IR jammer/laser at it's seeker head. Either will cause it to miss. However, the systems that will do any of these things are beyond the technology of any aircraft modelled in Lomac . . . . with the exception of the Su25T, which does have the non-directional IR jammer. But in Lomac, as IRL for aircraft not fitted with detectors, all you can do is keep your eyes open for smoke trails. Situational awareness . . . . isn't it brilliant? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
504MrWolf Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 A2G = in a briefed "hot zone" just keep popping flares and watch the ground. A2A = Dont go to low :) and again use flares in dog fights. I was training in Su25T against a heavily guarded port against 4x Strela9 1x shilka and 2x igla all on high skill level, targets x2 Kilo subs and 1x dry docked ship. Stayed high and popped plenty of flares on 1st run killed both sub's with Kh29T came in a little lower on second run, engaged IR Jammer and popped loads of flares released 2x FAB-500 bombs on ship....dead.........i think i saw 2 or 3 IR missiles get close to me but all spoofed by counter measures. Stay high, pop flares and watch for smoke trails. www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk
Guest IguanaKing Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 You could do it with your RWR for some SAM systems with range-finding radars such as Hat Box on the SA-13 (Strela-10), but those radars aren't modeled in LOMAC. About the only time you get spiked by Hat Box is just before a missile is fired.
evilbadger Posted September 14, 2005 Author Posted September 14, 2005 The active IR jammer sounds nice, but my A10 doesn't have something like that ;) I'll try keeping my eyes open, thanks.
GGTharos Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Your A-10 has lots of flares and CCRP capability. Where possible stay above 12000'. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
BearF_CO_159th Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Are any of the aircraft in LOMAC fitted with a DIRCM system IRL?
britgliderpilot Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Are any of the aircraft in LOMAC fitted with a DIRCM system IRL? Not that I know of. DIRCM is pretty new. None of the flyable aircraft at the spec modelled are new enough to have it, and to the best of my knowledge none of them are fitted with it anyway. Some of the transport aircraft and choppers may be, in an up-to-date configuration. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
169th_Crusty Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Are any of the aircraft in LOMAC fitted with a DIRCM system IRL? IIRC, IR missile launches can be detected (light & audible warning) but I`m not sure about reliability of these detectors. They`ve been around for a while. But not DIRCM
Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 why is it that ir missiles cant be detected, but yet when fireing IR against AI they always seem to detect it and release flares ??? even if it is released from there 6, and as far as i am aware pilots dont have eyes in the back of there head, but i may be mistaken :P I want what they have :D
BearF_CO_159th Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 I have been involved in a DIRCM trial and its a good system, the detection methods used the distinctive IR sig of a launch. As for the 'standard' detectors Crusty, the ones I work with are Very good and very reliable.
Trident Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 None of the aircraft in LOMAC are fitted with DIRCM, but quite a number have missile approach warners or IR jammers. The following planes fall into the former cathegory: - Tu-95 - Tu-142 - Tu-22M3 - Tu-160 - Su-24M - C-17 - B-1B and B-52, most likely but I can't seem to find the sensors on photos - just about all US helos - probably most Russian ones aswell, atleast the Ka-50 and Ka-52 can be expected to have such systems Here's a nice photo of the Russian missile detector on a Su-24: http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/brzeg_164ograp/index.php?picid=brzeg_164ograp025 IR jammers are installed on pretty much all Russian and American helicopters, aswell as the Su-25T of course.
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