moken Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Dear all, I see honeywell switch is original switch but honeywell have over hundred model switch, so I don't know which model for A-10C, anybody can give me the honeywell switch list for A-10C each panel? Thank you very much Otherwise, please tell me where to buy honeywell switch is cheaper?
rocketeer Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Why do you need to use Honeywell switches? They are very expensive IMO. personally I get mine from radio shack, digikeys, other online sites etc. so long as it works. If you are building a full pit, there'd be hundreds of switches. The cost adds up quickly if you get switches that are a few times more expensive than normal ones. My A10C cockpit thread
Dropship Pilot Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I agree with rocketeer in regard to the basic switches - it just doesn't make sense to spend $50+ for a single switch if you can have the same function and 95% of the look and feel with a $2 switch. Nevertheless it would be a good thing if we could compile such a list and have possible low budged alternatives listed as well (the fill disable switch is a good example how hard it can be to find something usefull). Also there are quite a few things you can't get from looking the the simulation like the correct locking function on locking lever switches or wether the ENG FUEL FLOW switches are electrically held or not. The locking switches used look like MS 27754 (Honeywell TW series) MS 24660 (Honeywell TL series) Cheers, Stefan
hog_driver111th Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 You can get switches that closely match the warthog throttle for fairly cheap. I paid 2.50€ for each on/off, and the look exactly like the APU switch. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
Deadman Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 For switch description just check the -1 for the Engine Fuel Flow Switches they are not mag switches Engine Fuel Flow Switches Two engine fuel flow switches (figure 1-4), one for each engine, are located on the engine control panel. These switches are placarded ENG FUEL FLOW L and R and each ~\\itch has two positions, placarded NORM and OVERRIDE. With the switch in NORM, the engine fuel flow' is scheduled on the basis of throttle position and limited to the m,maximum power trim setting hy the ITT amplifier. In the event of an ITT amplifier failure, the temperature control system can be deactivated by placing the appropriate switch in OVERRIDE. When this is done, the engine will be speed controlled by I he throttle posit ion alone. Selection of OVERRIDE when ITT is below the maximum power trim setting will produce no change in engine operation. The engine fuel flow switches are powered by the auxiliary AC essential bus. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
MTFDarkEagle Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Where could I find a -1? Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Deadman Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 In the A-10 manuals and documents sticky T.O 1A-10A-1 is the -1 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1015425&postcount=3 https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
moken Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Wooooo, thank you for your reply, since my English no good, I don't understand some meaning, but I will try to translate my Chinese, Otherwise, thank you so much to Deadman , you give me the link for offical information, I think this very useful Edited January 8, 2012 by moken
moken Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Thank you Dropship poilot, you give me know the part number of Honeywell switch, Otherwise, I will see other website from Rocketeer, but I don't know the website link, however, I will follow your advice to build my cockpit, since you All are professioner , if other advice, please feel free to tell me PS: since my English no good, I always need more time to know your meaning, if anybody give me advice or help me but I forget thank you for you, please don't hate me Edited January 8, 2012 by moken
rocketeer Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Nevertheless it would be a good thing if we could compile such a list and have possible low budged alternatives listed as well (the fill disable switch is a good example how hard it can be to find something Cheers, Stefan The fill disable switch is just a push pull switch. Look at my post #402 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=48697&page=11 They are small push pull switches. Worst case get normal size push pull switches that can be found online or Ace hardware store. As for other knobs and switches, I've spent a lot of time gathering most of them last year, as seen in my thread. Personal life troubles interrupted my progress. My A10C cockpit thread
SHARKMEAT Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I got to say you guys sure have alot of time on your hand playing this game, seems like more time is spent fixing things like hotas setups than flying lol, hell I'm retired and I can't keep up, nothing personal guys just an outside view of what I been reading on the forums lol...........CHEERS PS: Wish you guys could fly a real one for about 4 hours straight then turn around and do the same thing going home. Then the Game mode would be the first thing you play to make it fun. Edited January 9, 2012 by SHARKMEAT
moken Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 Thank you All again, really good start for me, now i draft the switch, Rotary switch, linear accelerator, Throttle switch, spacer-screw and Nut detail information list for me and share to all, i think that can calculate for purchase, if anybody need that please wait
moken Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 Dear Deadman, Your [ A-10 manuals and documents sticky T.O 1A-10A-1 ] link all file can not download http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...25&postcount=3 :cry::cry::cry:
Dropship Pilot Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Hi Deadman, that last sentence in your quote from the manual is what made me think they might be electrically held: "The engine fuel flow switches are powered by the auxiliary AC essential bus. " I haven't seen this type of remark for standard switches. Furthermore there are switch guards (not sure if the term is correct) to the left and the right. This is also something that could hint to an electrically held switch (like the EAC or the anti collision light switches). Cheers, Stefan
moken Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) A-10C Material List v1.1.zip Dear all, I draft my verison 1.1 A-10C material detail list for you, but base on my limited resource, if anybody think my information is wrong , please inform me to revise, finally, i hope this file can help me and you for build our cockpit. Otherwise, i need anybody provide more information to my draft progress PS: Any photo made by you profeesioner , Special thanks to you :smilewink: Edited January 8, 2012 by moken
Deadman Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Not my sticky or link, You should post in that thread the link is not working. Dear Deadman, Your [ A-10 manuals and documents sticky T.O 1A-10A-1 ] link all file can not download http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...25&postcount=3 :cry::cry::cry: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Hi Stephen Think of the auxiliary AC essential bus as a folder name in a file system.The power system in the AQ-10 is split up for separation and redundancy. There are other things hooked up to the system if you search the -1 start on 1 -21. A switch guard is added to those switches now and just keeps the pilot from hitting them accidentally.Oh and yes i went to the shelve and looked at the throttle just to make sure its just two toggle switches Hi Deadman, that last sentence in your quote from the manual is what made me think they might be electrically held: "The engine fuel flow switches are powered by the auxiliary AC essential bus. " I haven't seen this type of remark for standard switches. Furthermore there are switch guards (not sure if the term is correct) to the left and the right. This is also something that could hint to an electrically held switch (like the EAC or the anti collision light switches). Cheers, Stefan Edited January 8, 2012 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks for checking! :thumbup: Cheers, Stefan
moken Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 Dear all, Could you tell me where to buy following item ( green color item )?
Dropship Pilot Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Have a look at the opencockits site: http://www.opencockpits.com/catalog/aluminium-dzus-fastener-p-211.html?cPath=24_57 They also have knobs and other interesting stuff. The part in the 3rd. picture (the landing gear handle replica) looks like a wheel from an RC model aircraft. Cheers, Stefan
rocketeer Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Moken, from your first picture, some of the knobs can be found from radio shack or Fry's here in the states. And many of the A10 knobs are the same as those from the F16, which can be bought here. http://temp.aviationsimulationgroupcom.officelive.com/AircraftKnobs.aspx That's where I got some of mine as these F16 knobs can't be found on the typical online electronics stores. My A10C cockpit thread
rocketeer Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 [ATTACH]61007[/ATTACH] Dear all, I draft my verison 1.1 A-10C material detail list for you, but base on my limited resource, if anybody think my information is wrong , please inform me to revise, finally, i hope this file can help me and you for build our cockpit. Otherwise, i need anybody provide more information to my draft progress PS: Any photo made by you profeesioner , Special thanks to you :smilewink: Moken, in your list, besides toggles and rotary, you'd want to also include other types of switches, like push buttons, rockers, encoders. and push-pull switches. Within each type, break down into even more details. eg. for push buttons, most will be momentary types, some may be latched. For toggles, besides 2 or 3 positions, one direction may be latched, the other may be momentay etc. you are on the right path, listing panels and the types of switches. but within each panel, there are many switches. to be even clear, you can paste a picture of the panel. then number the switches. then specify which switch (and number) uses what type of toggle, push button, rocker, rotary, encoder etc. Then for output, for each panel, which one requires led, lcd, or 7 segments. when you are done compiling all switch types and output display types, you'd be shocked at the number. it'd be like 300-400 etc. then you'd try to buy each switch at the average price of $2-3 rather than the authentic honeywell at $50 each. do your math first before trying to do everything authentic. this is a simulator hobby. so we are supposed to simulate, not build the real thing, unless you print money. else this hobby would require a second mortgage. :) My A10C cockpit thread
Deadman Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Moken, from your first picture, some of the knobs can be found from radio shack or Fry's here in the states. And many of the A10 knobs are the same as those from the F16, which can be bought here. http://temp.aviationsimulationgroupcom.officelive.com/AircraftKnobs.aspx That's where I got some of mine as these F16 knobs can't be found on the typical online electronics stores. He is going out of business http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=7360.0 https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 here is a bit of information that may help http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1369711&postcount=130 https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
moken Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Dear Deadman, I must super very extremely thank you for you, since my english no good, so i don't understand which switch for each panel, you give me more exactly information for which panel need use which model switch, because i hope to build as original panel style and prefect touch feel, so i will buy original or best switch, so i need exactly model number for each panel, please give me more exactly detail of switch for which panel, Thank you so much Edited January 10, 2012 by moken 1
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