AA Training Stops

[hawkeye62]

I have version 1.1.1.1.

 

I am trying to do the Air to Air Training Mission. I can never get past tracking a target. I proceed to the point where I set the TGP to SOI. The next step is to use LCTRL + Up Arrow to track the target. Nothing happens, after a while the training text disappears and nothing works. Another post said to keep the speed at 230 - 240 knots using the speed dial rather than the HUD. I keep the speed at 231 on the HUD and about 238 on the speed dial. It still stops every time at the same place. I have tried about 15 times to get past this stopping place.

 

Help!!!

 

Thanks, Jim

[Kalahari]

Have seen it,and the navigation and landing training missions also have a bug. The instructor says,'press the space bar'...nd nothing happens when u do.

[hawkeye62]

OK, I now get all the way to Press "A" key to disable autopilot, lock AIM-9 and fire the missile. The problem is that I can't see any aircraft to lock. The aircraft shows on the TGP and the TGP cue indicates that the target is straight forward, but no aircraft appears on the HUD, even if I zoom the view via the "*" key on the num pad.

 

And at the beginning of the mission when the SU-25s are sending up flares, no aircraft appears. The flares appear to be originating from blank air space.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

Thanks, Jim

[EvilBivol-1]

OK, I now get all the way to Press "A" key to disable autopilot, lock AIM-9 and fire the missile. The problem is that I can't see any aircraft to lock. The aircraft shows on the TGP and the TGP cue indicates that the target is straight forward, but no aircraft appears on the HUD, even if I zoom the view via the "*" key on the num pad.

 

And at the beginning of the mission when the SU-25s are sending up flares, no aircraft appears. The flares appear to be originating from blank air space.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated.

 

Thanks, Jim

That sounds strange and like a local problem with your installation. Maybe you have some mods that may have affected the Su-25 3D model?

 

I would suggest a fresh install.

[EvilBivol-1]

Have seen it,and the navigation and landing training missions also have a bug. The instructor says,'press the space bar'...nd nothing happens when u do.

There aren't any known bugs in the missions, which should stop them from being completed successfully. If you would like, you can upload a track of your flight and we can see if something went wrong in your mission.

[hawkeye62]

Thanks for your reply. I did a re-install. Full version 1.1.1.1, no patch, no mods. I will try to get a track to upload.

 

Regards, Jim

[EvilBivol-1]

What kind of OS are you running? 32 or 64 bit?

 

Would be useful for you to do a test to see if the Su-25 model shows up normally in other missions. Perhaps you could go into the Mission Editor and just plop down a single SU-25 on the map and hit the Fly button to see it will work.

 

I'm suspecting the issue may be that, if you're on a 32-bit system, it simply runs out of memory and cannot load the 3D model.

[hawkeye62]

OK, here is a track. On this mission I actually got a lock and fired the missile and hit the target, BUT I never did see the target. It was purely chance that I got the lock. Then somewhere before I got a chance to try the gun, it locked up.

 

I am not that concerned about the lock up after the missile hit. My problem is still that I never see the target so I don't know where to point my aircraft to put the seeker over the target.

 

My system is 64 bit. I have Win 7 Pro 64 bit. Mother board is Asus P6X58D, CPU is Intel Core i7 Quad Core 930, 2.8 GHz 8MB, 6 GB ram, XFX Radeon HD 5770 1 GB video card.

 

I will give the simple mission a try.

 

Edit: OK, a simple mission with aircraft SU-25 works. The SU-25 shows up flying from waypoint 1 to waypoint 2.

 

Thanks for your help, Jim

New Track.trk

Edited January 30, 2012 by hawkeye62

[hawkeye62]

Just a last update.

 

I finally have seen the aircraft. I zoomed the view until all I could see was the HUD and two little black dots showed up. I lined up on the left dot and the seeker locked on. I fired and hit the target that was showing on the TGP.

 

Thanks for the help, Jim

[EvilBivol-1]

Great you got it resolved.

[Evil.Bonsai]

Also stuck in this mission. Does the same thing with either 1111 or 120 w/temp voice fix: I get to 'maneuver behind tgt1 to get a lock' with sidewinder, get lock. Nothing after that, the training just stops. At least I now know how to get to AA mode and use a sidewinder but now need to learn more about using the gun against aircraft.

[JCamel]

The AA training is a bitch to complete because you have to do everything in the set order he mentions and really control your speed otherwise he won't continue.

 

Frankly it's my perception that the TGP is useless for AA. What are you going to do? Randomly scan sections of sky in case something is there?

 

Without a radar it's all VR, so you see the plane, go to AA HUD mode, select conical scan, get lock inside range (guess it visually), and fire. That's all you need to take away from that training. That and how to select different gun funnel profiles.

 

Sometimes you need to press buttons for longer to get it to register with the instructor.

Edited July 21, 2012 by JCamel

[Evil.Bonsai]

Thanks. I ended up making my own mission and tried out the gun funnels.

 

Now I"ll practice a bit, make a mission where a heli crosses path down low and I have to switch to AA mode quickly. For the most part, I've just ignored the loaded aim9s and AA altogether. Now that I know how to get to it, utilize the aim9 and gun funnels, it's time to practice.

[Darkwolf187]

What's making the training stop is that you can't just disengage autopilot with the HOTAS or force it off by maneuvering. You have to actually press the 'A' key to do it.

 

I totally agree with the uselessness of the TGP in AA. All it needs is a pipper on the HUD showing you where it's been slewed to and it would be fine. As it is, you don't know where the heck it's pointing and because you're aiming it at the sky you have no visual cues to help you figure it out.

[BI6MAC]

What's making the training stop is that you can't just disengage autopilot with the HOTAS or force it off by maneuvering. You have to actually press the 'A' key to do it.

 

I totally agree with the uselessness of the TGP in AA. All it needs is a pipper on the HUD showing you where it's been slewed to and it would be fine. As it is, you don't know where the heck it's pointing and because you're aiming it at the sky you have no visual cues to help you figure it out.

Yes, I wonder why they left out a simple "pipper" on the HUD (like everything else seems to have) to let you know where the IR camera is pointing.

 

I know this plane is not intended for A-A combat but since they gave it that capability it sure would make this weapon a whole lot more useful!!

[DunMac]

Hello,

I'm having trouble with the training missions not playing through. The TGP, and DSMS, lessons so far. They don't freeze, the audio instruction just stops about 5 to 7 minutes in. DCS World A-10 1.2.0 64 bit. i7-2670QM, nVidia GTX 570M. Any ideas?

[Jona33]

@DunMac, just checked TGP training and no issues at all. Played through fine my end.

[DunMac]

training stop

 

@DunMac, just checked TGP training and no issues at all. Played through fine my end.

 

Hi Jona33,

Appreciate you taking the time. I'll give it another try and keep you posted. Thanks again.

 

Hey Jona33,

I just tried it again and it worked fine, both lessons, the TGP delayed at the same spot as the first but I waited maybe 30 seconds or more and it continued. The DSMS was totally my fault, I hit the china hat forward long instead of the aft long. As soon as I got it right the lesson continued without a hitch.

Edited August 25, 2012 by DunMac