ShuRugal Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 Just a curious question, is there a dead-man's curve somewhere for this bird? I looked in the manual but couldn't find a proper H-V chart.
flanker0ne Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 Nice question! I'm in search for a true Ka-50 H-V chart also. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
Suchacz Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 Excuse me, but what is in that H-V chart? :huh: Height/Velocity? Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Suchacz Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 Page 13-5. Wow, what a nice boobies :devil_2: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
flanker0ne Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I have some doubt on the reality of this chart. The one's I see have more informations like a different curve for Eng Anti Ice On not just for weight difference. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
Mikoyan89 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) I don't know for the Ka-50 but real charts,at least the apache one, has datas for different weights and for different pressure altitude,and for the antiice it says generally that anti-ice cuts 16% of available torque Edited February 9, 2012 by Mikoyan89 YouTube Blog
gunslinger5577 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 HV Curve H-V curves are usually provided at least for maximum gross weight to provide a conservative margin for safety. Many helicopters also have H-V curves generated for different weights to allow for more capability. Also, pilot technique and procedures come into play while developing this curve. for instance in some tests the pilot reaction time can be as low as .5 sec, (pilot in the loop at low hover). So, you have to react swiftly when on the edge of this curve in order to effect a safe landing, or fly away maneuver.
Devrim Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Wow, what a nice boobies :devil_2: That's what I saw on the page at that moment, too. :D Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Griffin Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 There was discussion about the realism of the autorotation modeling so real life charts might not be usable.
AlphaOneSix Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Indeed. Currently, in-game, you can hover above the ground at an arbitrary altitude, shut off the engines, and the aircraft will land with only broken landing gear. I have not tried this at flat pitch, but it works at full pitch (full collective). The rotor system will not stall. Note that VRS is only possible with power applied, if you cut off the engines, you won't be able to induce VRS. (This is true in RL and in-game) I've submitted a bug report about this, but the physics expert for ED is...well, it would not be a stretch to say that he is task saturated and that this issue is a fairly low priority, all things considered. And I have to agree, unfortunately, although it may be very high priority to some of us. Edited February 10, 2012 by AlphaOneSix
flanker0ne Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Hi Alpha, for training with the autorotation you believe that lowering the throttles is enough? It seems to me that real pilots do not close the flow of fuel for training, right? But in doing so I noticed that it is too easy. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
AlphaOneSix Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Hi Alpha, for training with the autorotation you believe that lowering the throttles is enough? It seems to me that real pilots do not close the flow of fuel for training, right? But in doing so I noticed that it is too easy. 1) In real life, yes, lowering the throttles is enough. 2) Real pilots do not shut down the engines in flight for training. 3) Correct, simply placing the throttles to IDLE in-game makes autorotations way too easy...better to practice them in-game by shutting down the engines.
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