Prolixite Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Hey guys, I much prefer to take off vertically, but the control tower does not seem to agree with me that it's cool to do so. Wingmates will always taxi to runway. So what I understand is that vertical take off should not be performed, is this correct? Or is there a way to perform Vertical take off in compliance with the military protocol, and its just not coded yet? Just wondering ;) Thanks in advance. PS - searched but did not find this topic, if I'm blind, sorry for the duplicate.
PeterP Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) You have to obey the rules on a normal airfield that is not dedicated to rotary wing aircraft's. Example: you can't tell the Tower-personal to implement new traffic rules just because you are able to take of without using the runway - (In RL you have of course on most of the general aviation airfields a dedicated space for helicopters - but it is not implemented in DCS.) So if the tower crew tells you what to do - you simply obey without questioning ;). BTW: if you are fully loaded you will also save a lot of fuel by a horizontal take-off run. Edited February 25, 2012 by PeterP
Prolixite Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 That makes sense, did not think of it that way. I just did something I should have done a while ago: opened the manual. Section 10-2. So that was my last stupid question :smartass: Thanks again,
flanker0ne Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Keep in mind that there is no need to use the entire runway, so you can enter the runway from the nearest taxiway, speeding up the procedure. DCS's ATC allows to obtain the take-off permission even from the middle entries of the runway. Second, in many airports with a taxiway parallel to the runway, helicopters take-off is authorized by the taxiway itself, this section is often marked by two H. Edited February 28, 2012 by flanker0ne SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
Depth Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 When I go out to the north sea the helicopter pilots always use the entire length of the runway at both landing and takeoff. Sometimes they even do a vertical takeoff to a few metres then go down the length of the runway. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Demongornot Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Okey for a normal flight but for a war situation with scramble take off are you sure that the pilot will really wait for taxi (sometime parking its far from runway) and take off after DCS must simulate emergency situation too... CPU : I7 6700k, MB : MSI Z170A GAMING M3, GC : EVGA GTX 1080ti SC2 GAMING iCX, RAM : DDR4 HyperX Fury 4 x 8 Go 2666 MHz CAS 15, STORAGE : Windows 10 on SSD, games on HDDs. Hardware used for DCS : Pro, Saitek pro flight rudder, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, Oculus Rift. Own : A-10C, Black Shark (BS1 to BS2), P-51D, FC3, UH-1H, Combined Arms, Mi-8MTV2, AV-8B, M-2000C, F/A-18C, Hawk T.1A Want : F-14 Tomcat, Yak-52, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, F-5E, MiG-21Bis, F-86F, MAC, F-16C, F-15E.
Depth Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 If it really was an emergency situation like the airbase being under direct attack then I assume you'd just have to take-off without even announcing it if your life was in danger. If everything is getting scrambled at once I doubt it would be a smooth process if everyone also took off at once. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
msalama Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 As I remember it you can ask for a hover check and then takeoff when you're in the air already. No need to taxi anywhere :) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
leafer Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Until ED gets serious with ATC, I say take off and land at your own behest. Sometimes I shoot them to announce my presence cuz they can't seem to give me proper direction and whatnot. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Teeps Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 When I go out to the north sea the helicopter pilots always use the entire length of the runway at both landing and takeoff. Sometimes they even do a vertical takeoff to a few metres then go down the length of the runway. That's the safest way to do it, just in case of engine failure or something. Win10 x64, 16 GB RAM, Ryzen 5 1600X @3.60 GHz, 500 GB SSD, GeForce 1080 Ti
Depth Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 That's the safest way to do it, just in case of engine failure or something. Easier for the emergency personnel to reach you on the runway, yeah. Had a few scary moments, one of them was strong winds and high seas landing on a floater. First try the rig slammed the helicopter upwards as it was coming up on the wave, second go the pilot waited at the top of the wave and just "dropped" it down as the rig passed the wavetop. Other time was when there was a lot of turbulence and rough winds on-shore. Felt like a rollercoaster heading inland when suddenly the pilot descended extremely rapidly for some reason. I mean extremely rapidly. One of the passengers got sharp pains and complete loss of hearing on one ear that slowly returned over the next few weeks. Other than those two times I love it. I always sit on the front row so I can look at the instruments :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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