negativecambre Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 It has been a goal of mine for the last two decades or so (since Falcon GOLD) to create a simpit. I built a really rudimentary one for Flaming Cliffs about five years ago, but my own technical abilities and budget really limited my design. Since then, I've built a few Lemons racecars and have a lot more money to play with, and man has simpit technology blossomed! So far, this is my design. This is about the fifth iteration I've gone through. The thing will be largely constructed of MDF, acrylic and plywood with possibly a 1" square tubular frame to mount the seat (most likely a reclining car bucket) and casters on. I built it predominantly with Flaming Cliffs 2 in mind, which has now been thrown into question with the FC3 announcement. The graphical portion of the pit is being controlled by a 14.5" bare laptop display being controlled by a LCD control board so it acts a monitor. The setup only cost 60 bucks and has a higher refresh then a USB monitor, and has almost no extraneous casing, so it can fit flush with the rest of the panel and does not take up any unnecessary real estate. Thrustmaster MFD surrounds, Saitek X65F and CH Pro-pedals make up the bulk of the control inputs. I'm using a pair of "desktopaviator.com" control boards to control the switches. I might have to incorporate a third if it looks like Flaming Cliffs 3 will incorporate additional avionic control. The pit will sit in front of a large LCD television, perhaps a 42-46"er, and will obviously incorporate Track IR. Why am I building such a complicated piece of hardware for a relatively uncomplicated sim like Flaming Cliff? I was contemplating building a pit for Falcon BMS, but realized what a slippery slope that would be. I'd have to incorporate another three dozen switches, rotaries, pots, and probably another monitor or two, and it would end up just being a 1:1 Falcon pit. Nothing wrong with that, but I just don't have the time, money and resources to deal with that. This pit will be largely CNC router constructed, while the panels will be back-lit acrylic that will have been laser cut. I want something that has enough workload and immersion to make it worth building, but not have such an insane learning curve that friends can't jump in it and at least have somewhat of a good time. I also like air combat more then a/g, which is why I'm not building this for A-10C. I'm now growing concerned that I'll have a harder time integrating the MFD's and gauge "pods" with the new architecture of DCS:world, as LEAVU2 is no longer upgraded. I imagine I'll be able to use the in-game MFD export feature that is used by DCS:world, but I'm still curious to see if it will add MFD export to the Russian aircraft... I'd love to get the SU-27's FCR exported as well. If everything goes well, I should have at least all the pieces cut by the end of this year. I have already purchased all the hardware needed save the Track IR (I can't find my old Track IR 4). Let me know if you have any suggestions. Also, I have rendered a great deal of common switch gear and a decent representation of the Saitek X65F in Solidworks 2011. If you want any of my files, let me know and I'll e-mail them to you. Thanks, Steve Ryan
Cali Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Sounds like you have a good plan, just gotta start. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 6, 2012 ED Team Posted September 6, 2012 looks like a well made plan ! Let the never ending tweaking and changing begin ! :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
negativecambre Posted September 6, 2012 Author Posted September 6, 2012 Yup. Just gotta find the time to get down to the techshop. I may build a 1/8th or so scale miniature to make sure I have the ergonomics right. I've waited two decades to start on this, I can wait a few more months :) By the time its complete, FC4 will probably be out.
metalnwood Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I may build a 1/8th or so scale miniature to make sure I have the ergonomics right. . Have you got a mini me to hop in and see what it feels like? :)
Swaty Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Looks promising! Keep up it up! :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Pit
negativecambre Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 Added a foam kneepad this afternoon. Going to model the rudder pedals and possibly the steel frame and casters tonight. Steve
Krebs20 Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 The graphical portion of the pit is being controlled by a 14.5" bare laptop display being controlled by a LCD control board so it acts a monitor. The setup only cost 60 bucks and has a higher refresh then a USB monitor, and has almost no extraneous casing, so it can fit flush with the rest of the panel and does not take up any unnecessary real estate. Thrustmaster MFD surrounds Do you mind showing how this is done? I have a few old laptops that could be used. Or a link to the lcd controller board? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
negativecambre Posted September 10, 2012 Author Posted September 10, 2012 Here you go: http://www.ebay.com/sch/njytouch/m.html?hash=item3f1aaa46fd&item=271030306557&pt=US_Server_Boards&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562 Shipping can be a little lengthy to the states (2 weeks or so) but the quality of the product is good and it works great. Just make sure that the LCD display you have is included in the list, and be sure to message the seller with that info. Steve 1
negativecambre Posted September 26, 2012 Author Posted September 26, 2012 I just have to export all the cuts into 2d vector forms for the cad/cam machine, and this bad mama jama is ready to be cut. What I'm concerned with now is that FC3 will require additions/revisions based on new interface or avionics controls. I could always retrofit another panel, but what I'm really concerned with is MFD export--anyone have any insight in how DCS world works with that? I know I won't get all the capability of LEAVU2 (LINK16 stuff, stores management, RWR--), but I'm wondering what F-15 or even SU stuff will be able to be "exported" like the MFD's in the A-10C. Steve
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