In-Game Manouever tutorials

[schkorpio]

One of the hardest things for me to learn is how to actually fly realistically - I can blow things up no problems, but I'd love to be taught (through an in-game hands on way) to be able to fly the way real military pilots fly. What specific manouevers they would use in particular situations.

 

Yeah sure i can sift through youtube or whatever but there is no SOP or quality control. and of course it isn't hands on.

 

I'd love to have a mission where you start in the sky, follow a wingman in a dry run, a couple of times while he explains the procedure, and then end with a live fire exercise.

 

 

Things like, attacking certain types of units with particular weapons, acrobatics, avoiding missiles and or AAA fire that kind of thing

[TimeKilla]

+1 Sounds like a decent idea being a sim this would be useful for people that are not real life pilots.

[NineLine]

Some good vids here, not hands on... but good ones:

 

https://www.youtube.com/feed/UCFUcVJRAa-jgQnbM45YIO6g/u

[WaitingXR145]

I agree completely. This would be a great addition to DCS and could also make the multiplayer better. If everyone has an idea of what is suppose to happen then they can make an effort to comply. Also allowing in single player to fly as a wingman and not a lead would be a good though. Then allowing the AI to control the mission. This would allow for people to learn things such as formation flying, covering, radar scan to protect lead and things such as this. I still do a lot of Falcon BMS and its one of the parts that I enjoy is flying as the wingman, since in real life you don't start as a LEAD!!!

[Home Fries]

While an interactive training mission would be great (and probably too difficult to do ATM), you can at least practice formation flying by doing the following:

 

1. Create a mission using the ME.
   
2. Add a single flight of one aircraft (your choice, but it should be a flyable aircraft). Give it a good route to fly, preferably at high altitude and a moderate speed.
   
3. Copy and paste that route (ctrl-c, ctrl-v) onto itself, and make the second flight of one the player.
   

 

Now you can manually keep formation with the other aircraft, and your nav instruments will tell you when your waypoint will change. Then when you want more of a challenge, adjust the speed and altitude of the AI "lead" aircraft between waypoints.

Edited April 12, 2013 by Home Fries

[Kaktus29]

i was thinking and writing about same stuff in other threads.. and agree completely..

 

what is lacking is any real data of how air to ground attack happens, not to mention BVR->merge ..

 

especially since we will be getting some older airplanes where formation attacking was even more important-aka Mig-21,Mig-23, etc..

 

I mean, i look at the Su-25 in Afghanistan.. and think to myself.. the level of expertise needed to use 1970 navigation system to fly into some mountain looking rock and find 20 mujahadeens firing at your guys while flying 700 km/h at 20.000 feet ..?!?!.. how, .. how in the hell do you do that.. if i'd be the pilot i would circle around the wrong mountain trying to find anything that looks like a target for 1 hour while the guys that called CAS would be killed like 50 minutes ago..

 

and of course the attack to be effective needs to happen in formation.. like you circle around, find the target, and then the lead aircraft strikes first,you follow in his "footsteps", and the 3rd wingman too.. etc etc.. then egress same way, rinse, repeat etc..

 

to do this with any kind of proficiency in DCS for most virtual pilots i think would be impossible.. just finding the right spot in the map where you are needed would be a miracle-of course finding it in time that is!- ..

 

i don't know, is it so hard to find out this "basic" manoeuvres and tactics that USSR used and NATO used-i think A-10 had to use some form of formation attacks so they don't end up each for himself diving, egressing and firing weapons all over the place..

 

and starting like a wingman should be a must.. and only if you "pass" the exams that you are capable of formation flying, and following your LEAD into attack-air-to-ground, air-to-air.. and then re-joining in high proficiency manner-like you could get it right 7 times out of 10 grade to pass.. anything lower than this and you are not qualified to be a wingman))

 

this should be an option under "Ace" difficulty..

 

right now, most of us are flying just all over the place...