Perriwen Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Okay, so....I've practiced this...and have done so a LOT. I see Yotube videos of people approaching the tanker, and they stay smooth all throughout. So...I trim the aircraft, check. I can take my hand off the stick and the jet flys perfectly level. I get up behind the tanker, and it's working nice until I get riiiiight into boom range. Then 'smooth ride' goes from 'tiny raft in 20-foot swells.' With no stick input or shifts in the aircrafts attitude, it get soved to the right, shove upwards into the tanker, downards away from the tanker. Despite staying more or less level (and trimmed), the tanker insists on dancing all over the place, and as a result when I DO get connected, it doesn't last for more than a couple seconds because another shove breaks the contact. I keep reading and seeing tutotrials: as long as you trim the aircraft, all you really need to worry about is adjusting speed. IN WHAT UNIVERSE!? D: In mine, the simulator is really insistant in shoving the aicraft all around and requiring frantic compensation.
Turtle47 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I have the same problem, smooth until I get close to the boom, then I'm all over the place. I'm thinking it has to be turbulance from the tanker. I have resigned myself to use the unlimited fuel option. Win 7 Intel ® CoreZ Quad CPU Q9550@2.83GHz Ram 8GB 64bit NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
smnwrx Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Adjust the axis curves. There is a pretty good thread around here with a good set up for making small adjustments such as close formation or a2ar. I'm not near my comp or I would post mine. Dont chase the boom around either just fly formation with the tanker and use the boom for reference. That's just one step to make things a little easier. There is no magic trick, only practice makes perfection Edited February 26, 2013 by smnwrx
Yurgon Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I keep reading and seeing tutotrials: as long as you trim the aircraft, all you really need to worry about is adjusting speed. IN WHAT UNIVERSE!? D: In mine, the simulator is really insistant in shoving the aicraft all around and requiring frantic compensation. I don't know which tutorials you're referring to there. I've always read that aerial refueling requires constant adjustment on all axes, and that's exactly what I would tell anyone from my experience in Falcon 4.0 and DCS A-10C. What I would not advise is that it requires "frantic compensation". From your description, the ride is a lot more violent than it should be. Maybe you should post a track. Also, I think A2A refueling was more difficult in earlier versions. Which one are you flying right now? I just made a short and simple training mission for 1.2.2 and recorded a track, see attachments. In the track, I got one disconnect, but it was generally a smooth refueling, of course with constant small adjustments on stick and throttle. Besides axis curves, a few tricks that may help you include: Before contact, open speedbrakes a bit. That makes throttle inputs less responsive and helps if you tend to overspeed and/or slow down too much. Trim nose down so that you have to apply constant pitch up pressure. This is especially helpful when the stick isn't that precise and has a large-ish center deadzone that makes small adjustments rather difficult. With enough training, these tricks shouldn't be necessary, but I found them helpful when I learned aerial refueling in A-10C.aerial_refueling_easy.mizyurgon_aerial_refueling_01.trk
Bahger Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Yes, I'm determined to get this down but, like you, I cannot get the very last moments of pre-contact right. I think I've slowed to the lowest possible closing speed, then I sit and watch hopelessly as the boom, instead of being guided into the port by the boom op, just wanders past my canopy. Obviously the tolerance for speed matching, trimmed attitude, position and closure rate are VERY narrow and, for the moment, beyond my ability to master.
SUBS17 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Heres a mission pack that might help, you start right behind the Tanker. http://files.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/273379/ 1 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
Bahger Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Just grabbed my first contact. Didn't last long but it's progress.
KillerSam Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Heres a mission pack that might help, you start right behind the Tanker. http://files.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/273379/ Thank you for this file, I found it very helpful :)
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