WildBillKelsoe Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Red Rover/ After taking out the fast learjet (3rd target) , and prior to the last 3 German mustangs launch, my propeller seized. I landed with gliding at Novo, got repaired, but now can't start the engine. What is the normal procedure for such behaviour. Also, the starter burnt out after trying to re-start the engine 4 times in 16 mins. All of this happening with my wingman above picking them enemy AI one by one. I always kept the line on red for the oil temperature no longer than required by adjusting propeller RPM while maintaining high throttle. Could this be the cause? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
sobek Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 High boost/low RPM is very hard on the engine. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
WildBillKelsoe Posted May 6, 2013 Author Posted May 6, 2013 High boost/low RPM is very hard on the engine. that was probably under 1 minute. I always keep an eye on the red gauge for oil temp. I try to make it in the green. But it went a little below the green ticks. is that reason to worry? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
sobek Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 In this case, it isn't the temp that kills the engine, it's the physical stress on the piston rod bearings. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
WildBillKelsoe Posted May 6, 2013 Author Posted May 6, 2013 In this case, it isn't the temp that kills the engine, it's the physical stress on the piston rod bearings. If I stick to the MP/RPM placard settings for chasing these planes, I'll never catch up, unless my trajectory permits an intercept. Also, worth noting here, the AWACS fails to give updates on the jet only. I've had this in 1.2.3 and also now in 1.2.4. The learjet maybe out of AWACS coverage? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
sobek Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 If I stick to the MP/RPM placard settings for chasing these planes, I'll never catch up, unless my trajectory permits an intercept. I don't understand how low RPM would permit you higher top speed. Engine power decreases significantly with RPM. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
WildBillKelsoe Posted May 7, 2013 Author Posted May 7, 2013 I don't understand how low RPM would permit you higher top speed. Engine power decreases significantly with RPM. I don't know, but I meant setting by the book wouldn't let me go after these 'jets'. I have to use WEP or a higher setting of RPM/MP. What is the usual procedure for coming out, going it, and coming out and going in of WEP? Should I let the engine green-line or should I just lower RPM then MP then wait for a period of time? Also, what is the problem with repair? it's supposed to give you new aircraft, right? or does it cumulate instrument errors and just fixes the body outside? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Lord_Pyro Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 The plane will be repaired, have you adjusted the mixture, checked fuel flow, magnetos and theese things? [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70340_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
WildBillKelsoe Posted May 7, 2013 Author Posted May 7, 2013 The plane will be repaired, have you adjusted the mixture, checked fuel flow, magnetos and theese things? All in norms. Starter wound the blades but she kept coughing... i'll give it a go again. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Merlin-27 Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 All in norms. Starter wound the blades but she kept coughing... i'll give it a go again. I've seen this before but it has been quite a while. I'm pretty sure if you seize the engine and make it back to base the ground crew repair doesn't always fix it. It will spin with the starter but not fire up. Maybe the assumption is that you typically will not have the opportunity for a full engine overhaul if you seize in the air. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] [Dogs of War] WWII COMBAT SERVER | P-51D - FW190-D9 - Me109-K4 Visit Our Website & Forum to Get More Info & Team Speak Access
VH-Rock Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 I've seen this before but it has been quite a while. I'm pretty sure if you seize the engine and make it back to base the ground crew repair doesn't always fix it. It will spin with the starter but not fire up. Maybe the assumption is that you typically will not have the opportunity for a full engine overhaul if you seize in the air. Let her cool down first! Repairing does not 0 the temperatures. If you wait 5 - 10 minutes and let the temps reduce to below 30 - 35 degrees, she should start again. Virtual Horsemen - Right Wing (P-51) - 2008... Virtual Ultimate Fighters - Lead (P-47) - 2020...
WildBillKelsoe Posted May 10, 2013 Author Posted May 10, 2013 will try and report back. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
WildBillKelsoe Posted December 20, 2014 Author Posted December 20, 2014 Resurrecting: Well engine management got alot trickier since then. I can safely say that diluting oil at 2700/46 works best. Also, the propeller seized twice, first just as the 2 German mustangs got in the mix, it just seized without WEP. I'm sure this time that everything was normal but the throttle was set lower than engine RPM. No I did not floor it, I'm sure at least subconsciously. So I was high enough to glide it back to Novo, again. Repairs started as my wingman declared winchester. I modified the mission for longer time AWACS and got AWACS closer to Novo. German fighters engaged the AWACS, my winchester wingman while I was taking off after repairs, then entered the mission failure airspace. I was furious so I took off again, armed, and as I climbed out, one of the 2 German fighters got hit by my wingman and was landing soonish at Gelendick. The other spotted me and as I moved to WEP, I did have good speeds to zoom up and at least fend him off. And just as I was putting my velocity vector on him "Boom!" Propeller seizure. :( AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
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