Joe Kurr Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) We're hard at work to set up the DCS World section for the LLTM 2014. In order to make this event even better than previous ones, we'd like to know what you want. What kind of event would make you decide to come to Enschede? What type of missions would you like to see in the competition? What would you like to see besides a competition? Please respond, so we can tailor the event to your needs to make the LLTM 2014 the best one ever. For more information about the LLTM, please visit http://www.lowlandtigermeet.com Edited October 4, 2013 by Joe Kurr Added link to the website Dutch Flanker Display Team | LLTM 2010 Tiger Spirit Award
Rhinox Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 I never took part in any LLTM, but I have read your review of LLTM2011. That made me thinking "damn, next time I must be there!". If LLTM2014 is going to be about the same as LLTM2011 was, I'll be satisfied...
TimeKilla Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Maybe be a good idea to add some information about what is LLTM as i've got no idea at the moment. :thumbup: :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Maybe be a good idea to add some information about what is LLTM as i've got no idea at the moment. :thumbup: LowLand Tiger Meet ;) http://www.lowlandtigermeet.com/ Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
TimeKilla Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Am such a newbie thanks MTFDarkEagle :) :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
Joe Kurr Posted October 4, 2013 Author Posted October 4, 2013 Maybe be a good idea to add some information about what is LLTM as i've got no idea at the moment. :thumbup: Fixed :) 1 Dutch Flanker Display Team | LLTM 2010 Tiger Spirit Award
Emmer Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Maybe be a good idea to add some information about what is LLTM as i've got no idea at the moment. :thumbup: (Hope you don't mind Joe Kurr, for putting the description here) The Lowland Tiger Meet event is inspired on the real life NATO Tigermeet. Fighter squadrons bearing the Tiger symbol in their patch come together to fight, learn and socialize. This is what the LLTM is all about. Only without some of the strict military rules. Brotherhood, flying and learning while doing. That's what the LLTM stands for...... In short: it's a LAN party for flightsimmers.Flightsimmers bring their hardware (pc, HOTAS , homebuildcockpits) and compete in various missions to earn various prizes, making new friends, meeting old friends and learn the skills in the process. As presented at their website: http://www.lowlandtigermeet.com/ LLTM image from 2008 Ahaus, Germany: Edited October 4, 2013 by Emmer [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
wasserfall Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Thought i post some video's so you can see what it's all about. K7p3DN335t8 U1RjGXTkPIg c4BrAavNID0 Don't hesitate to sign in, you won't regret it. See ya Edited October 5, 2013 by wasserfall Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G
Emmer Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Good thinking! :thumbup: Edited October 4, 2013 by Emmer [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
MasterZelgadis Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Too bad it's not in Ahaus at Tobit.Software's Hangar anymore, because I'm working there now :( "Sieh nur, wie majestätisch du durch die Luft segelst. Wie ein Adler. Ein fetter Adler." http://www.space-view.net
wasserfall Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Come on people let's hear your voice, what can we do to attract more participants? If you have any suggestions, please write them here. It will be much appreciated! ED and The Fighter Collection were often present at the LLTM. (front to back) LigerZero(DFDT), Jim Mack and his wife Dee (ED Fighter Collection), Groove (ED) and Woodstock (Jabog32). i have very good memories of that years LLTM. Once more, please give us some feedback! Thanks!! Wasserfall Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G
Rhinox Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Just a tip: maybe you could create full-/half-/micro-banners for LLTM2014. We would put it on our web-sites to help to spread the word. At least a few sizes, so that we could pick the one that is easiest to include in our web-page layout...
Emmer Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Too bad it's not in Ahaus at Tobit.Software's Hangar anymore, because I'm working there now :( Thats too bad indeed, we could have meet you there............:thumbup: [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
wasserfall Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 @ Rhinox, Thank you for your tip! Banners are in the pipeline i think, but i will contact Ice on this. Come on people let's hear your voice, what can we do to attract more participants? If you have any suggestions, please write them here. It will be much appreciated! ED and The Fighter Collection were often present at the LLTM. (front to back) LigerZero(DFDT), Jim Mack and his wife Dee (ED Fighter Collection), Groove (ED) and Woodstock (Jabog32). i have very good memories of that years LLTM. Once more, please give us some feedback! Thanks!! Wasserfall Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G
Emmer Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Something like this: But thats a copy........NOT the official one. 1 [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
Liger Zero Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Come on guys we are building the missions at the moment what would you guys love to see in it. Some of the missions that are in the pipeline are.... BVR , CAS, SEAD or maybe a night time mission. For example put in a couple of A-10 or SU-25T in the BVR that can do a secondary task. So that people that don't have the F-15 or SU-27 ( FC3 ) can compete in every mission. Only Serious reactions or ideas for the missions PLZ
Emmer Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Serious: BVR Night would be great ; carrier ops and /or mid-air refueling. Airbase attack. CAP intercept. CA Tank Battle ; search and destroy enemy tanks. [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
Rhinox Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Concerning mission building, a few tips: 1. Please use different atmospheric conditions, at least in combat-missions. These are "all weather fighters/strikers", so why 95% of mp-servers run missions with "holiday-like" weather? That's far from reality. Use rain, snow, fog, storm, wind, etc. Let us prove we can land on instruments, in strong cross-wind! 2. In combat-missions use "logical" AAD-deployment, that's mix of loong/medium/short-range systems, covering each-other. Lonely S-300 does not look realistically. And when I'm at it: do not squeeze systems like S-300 to one compact pack on area barely as large as one soccer-playground (one more bad habit in many mp-misions). Missile-launchers of the same long-range system can be many miles away from command/radar vehicles! So if a pilot turns away from radar after he received missile-launch warning, he might just as well turn unwittingly toward incomming missile (he already overflew launcher during inbound flight)...
Joe Kurr Posted October 16, 2013 Author Posted October 16, 2013 Concerning mission building, a few tips: 1. Please use different atmospheric conditions, at least in combat-missions. These are "all weather fighters/strikers", so why 95% of mp-servers run missions with "holiday-like" weather? That's far from reality. Use rain, snow, fog, storm, wind, etc. Let us prove we can land on instruments, in strong cross-wind! 2. In combat-missions use "logical" AAD-deployment, that's mix of loong/medium/short-range systems, covering each-other. Lonely S-300 does not look realistically. And when I'm at it: do not squeeze systems like S-300 to one compact pack on area barely as large as one soccer-playground (one more bad habit in many mp-misions). Missile-launchers of the same long-range system can be many miles away from command/radar vehicles! So if a pilot turns away from radar after he received missile-launch warning, he might just as well turn unwittingly toward incomming missile (he already overflew launcher during inbound flight)... There's some input we can work with :) 1. We're using dynamic weather systems in the missions, and currently working out some nice and varied conditions. So expect visibility to range from unlimited to 0, with varying wind directions and speeds, and local precipitation. 2. Air defences will range from short-range AAA and MANPADS to long range SAMS (S-300 / Patriot), covering the entire battlefield and red/blue overlapping at the front line. We hope this will bring some challenges to the SEAD guys. We will definately look into your suggestion of placing SAM launchers and radars further apart. Dutch Flanker Display Team | LLTM 2010 Tiger Spirit Award
Liger Zero Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Concerning mission building, a few tips: 1. Please use different atmospheric conditions, at least in combat-missions. These are "all weather fighters/strikers", so why 95% of mp-servers run missions with "holiday-like" weather? That's far from reality. Use rain, snow, fog, storm, wind, etc. Let us prove we can land on instruments, in strong cross-wind! 2. In combat-missions use "logical" AAD-deployment, that's mix of loong/medium/short-range systems, covering each-other. Lonely S-300 does not look realistically. And when I'm at it: do not squeeze systems like S-300 to one compact pack on area barely as large as one soccer-playground (one more bad habit in many mp-misions). Missile-launchers of the same long-range system can be many miles away from command/radar vehicles! So if a pilot turns away from radar after he received missile-launch warning, he might just as well turn unwittingly toward incomming missile (he already overflew launcher during inbound flight)... As Joe Kurr stated the Dynamic is in progress. As for the AAD Deployment that gave a nice idea. You can pull the AA sites empty and then try to finish them off.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Edited October 17, 2013 by Liger Zero
jj_pt Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I'm more interested in 2 hours briefings and debriefings. That's more fun. :D What kinds of missions can we expect? [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC]
Liger Zero Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 I'm more interested in 2 hours briefings and debriefings. That's more fun. :D What kinds of missions can we expect? Here is a list of some of the standard missions. We try our best to make it possible for everyone to fly every mission. Navi challenge: SU-25T BVR : F-15C Su-27 and SU-25T SEAD : SU-25 SU-25T A10C KA-50 Mi-8 and UH1 + Combined Arms CAS : SU-25 SU-25T A10C KA-50 Mi-8 and UH1 + Combined Arms Dogfight Compo : Every aircraft aviable for DCS World And there are some more missions in development. If you have any questions just ask.. NOTE: If new modules are being released before the LLTM starts we will try to add them to it.
jj_pt Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Are you planning to use 3rd party tools, such as LotAtc for ATC or TARS for TeamSpeak 3 ingame comms? [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC]
Joe Kurr Posted October 30, 2013 Author Posted October 30, 2013 At the moment we have no plan to use paid 3rd-party tools like LotATC, because we don't know if participants will have it. Building a mission around such a tool is a risk, as you can't fly the mission when nobody has the tool installed. Concerning the briefings, we will do a briefing before every mission, we haven't decided yet about debriefs. Dutch Flanker Display Team | LLTM 2010 Tiger Spirit Award
Rhinox Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 ...Dogfight Compo : Every aircraft aviable for DCS World... I'm not sure what you mean with "dogfight compo" (gunzo?), but once we organised a "WVR-tournament" (only full load of short-range IR missiles). It was placed in Caucasus-region of the map, with a lot of deep valleys to hide, flying low, looking for and chasing each other, firing sidewinders or r73 in vertical-/helmet-mode. It was not so energy-sensitive as gunzo (one wrong turn and you are sitting duck), but it was a hell of fun!
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