eurofor Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 This is an idea I had a while back and reading another thread now reminded me. As a fan of realism I only fly loadouts I feel are realistic and I know I'm not alone in this. It's easy to put 2x Kh-29L and 4x Kh-25ML under your wings but just because you could doesn't mean you would. So this is a thread to help us find loadouts that are realistic (I hope it can stay under the Su-25 forum section as it is intended to enhance gameplay). Post pictures and/or videos showing the loadout in use. Static display airshow loadouts do not qualify. Pics or it didn't happen. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
eurofor Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 2x Fuel, 6x S-25 1, Empty 2: S-25 3: S-25 4: S-25 5: Fuel tank 6: Fuel tank 7: S-25 8: S-25 9: S-25 10: Empty [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
TurboHog Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 160 x S-8 8 x S-24 2 x Fuel tank, 80 x S-8, 2 x S-24, 2 x R-60 'Frett'
Vedexent Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 For the same picture/videos that people are posting in thread, I usually load out with one kind of munition, and as "simple and cheap" as the mission dictates: 2-8 x S-13/S-8 2-8 x S-24OM for "bunker busting" 2-6 x S-13/S-8 + 2 fuel for long range hauls, or areas where we might need to loiter/hunt a long time. 2-6 x S-13/S-8 + 2 Kh-25Ml if we expect there are AAD units like an Avenger or Linebacker in the target zone, and we need stand off capability. 2-6 x S-13/S-8 + 2 S-8TsM if flying with a multiple wingmen, or mixed aircraft in the mission to mark targets. I also don't load all my hard points, unless the mission needs it. If we're tasked with taking out a single hardened target, maybe one only needs 2-4 S-24OMs. The fuel savings and maneuvering gains are worth it.
Esac_mirmidon Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I´m not sure but i think i´ve read somewhere that the Su-25 Weapons System can hold only two types of weapons at the same time ( except R-60 and fuel tanks). So no weapons mix more than two types. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
VapoR Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 That would make sense. I would love to see a loadout where the ECM pod is in use. Seems not so common (I almost never carry one myself).
VapoR Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 What are these? They don't look like FAB-500S...
VapoR Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I'm guessing that R-60s would be added if necessary depending on the nature of the conflict.
eurofor Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Browsing loadouts it's interesting to see how common it is to use a pair of external fuel tanks. I like this. It's simple: 2x Fuel, 4x S-8 1: Empty 2: Empty 3: S-8 4: S-8 5: Fuel tank 6: Fuel tank 7: S-8 8: S-8 9: Empty 10: Empty [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
eurofor Posted January 15, 2014 Author Posted January 15, 2014 160 x S-8 (...) I'm curious if this configuration would be used in reality or if it's more of a show-off loadout. Considering that so many loadouts carry external fuel tanks and that it must have a relatively large amount of drag I have doubts about its practicality. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VapoR Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Could be used for training or low threat sorties maybe. I'm loving this thread BTW. I would like to see a collection of these loadouts as a mod, or even better--ED could replace the current default stuff that is implausible. They certainly edited many of the AI aircraft loadouts for 1.2.7 so surely they could do the same for flyables?
Frostie Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 What are these? They don't look like FAB-500S... Could be napalm tanks. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
titanium Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Bulgarian Su-25k: http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=2225317 2x r-60, 2x kh-23(not in game) does this mean we should be able to carry the kh-25 on stations 5&6? Bulgarian Su-25k: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Bulgaria---Air/Sukhoi-Su-25K/2080107/M/ 8x s-5 rocket pods Peruvian Su-25k: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Peru---Air/Sukhoi-Su-25.../0949110/M/ 2x ODAB-500PM, 2x S-8 rocket pod, 2x RBK-250, 2x FAB-250 Im not sure about this one. Maybe its a show off load for the photo. Russian Su-25: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-25/2237881/M/ 2x fuel tanks, 2x s-25L Russian Su-25: http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/attack/su25/su25-9.jpg 2x fuel tanks, 6x FAB-250 Soviet Su-25: http://englishrussia.com/images/su25-afghanistan/2.jpg 4x RBK-500, 2x fuel tanks, 2 S-8 rocket pods Russian Su-25: http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su25/images/su25_1.jpg 8x S-24 Edited January 16, 2014 by titanium I am the alpha and the omega
Mobius_cz Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 160 x S-8 I'm curious if this configuration would be used in reality or if it's more of a show-off loadout. Considering that so many loadouts carry external fuel tanks and that it must have a relatively large amount of drag I have doubts about its practicality. Well, this SU-25 belonged Czech republic (you can see a little flag on the tail) and this photo is probably from an air show which was also Czech republic. This is probably just loadout for a demostration. [sIGPIC]http://dcs-uvp.cz/images/userbars/uvp_bars_mic.gif[/sIGPIC]
eurofor Posted January 16, 2014 Author Posted January 16, 2014 Well, this SU-25 belonged Czech republic (you can see a little flag on the tail) and this photo is probably from an air show which was also Czech republic. This is probably just loadout for a demostration. It seems like a very common static display loadout and it makes sense if you want to put it on display without being all empty under the wings. Just put some unloaded B-8M1 pods on and it will look impressive. For me, the 8x S-8 loadout is disqualified until there's footage of it without the wheels touching the ground. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Sukhoi_Su-25_2008_G4.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WamIInKapvg/TfrmrH6vaXI/AAAAAAAAANA/RaSOp9JD2qM/s1600/8-14484603%2BSu-25K%2BMonox.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Sukhoi_Su-25_@_Central_Air_Force_Museum.jpg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vedexent Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 It's hard to see what the load out is on these planes - the video quality isn't great - but near the end there's a pretty shot up Su-25 rolling into base with a pair of fuel tanks and a quad of what look like empty S-25 tubes. That doesn't mean that there couldn't have been other munitions on the hard points further out when she left base.
Mobius_cz Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) It seems like a very common static display loadout and it makes sense if you want to put it on display without being all empty under the wings. Just put some unloaded B-8M1 pods on and it will look impressive. For me, the 8x S-8 loadout is disqualified until there's footage of it without the wheels touching the ground. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Sukhoi_Su-25_2008_G4.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WamIInKapvg/TfrmrH6vaXI/AAAAAAAAANA/RaSOp9JD2qM/s1600/8-14484603%2BSu-25K%2BMonox.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Sukhoi_Su-25_@_Central_Air_Force_Museum.jpg The first photo is quite interesting. I didn't know that SU-25 is capable to be loaded up to 4 R-60 missiles. Edited January 16, 2014 by Mobius_cz [sIGPIC]http://dcs-uvp.cz/images/userbars/uvp_bars_mic.gif[/sIGPIC]
Vedexent Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 The second photo is quite interesting. I didn't know that SU-25 is capable to be loaded up to 4 R-60 missiles. It might not be - could be some exhibitor is just sticking munitions on the outside for show :D
TurboHog Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 8xUB-32 S5 rocket pods 9:30 18:36 I think the drag issues would be the same as with the S-8 rocket pods. With all the static examples of 8x S-8 pods it is most likely that this loadout has seen action. If the range to target allows the extra drag, of course. 'Frett'
eurofor Posted January 16, 2014 Author Posted January 16, 2014 8xUB-32 S5 rocket pods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKFrxsSswM 9:30 18:36 I think the drag issues would be the same as with the S-8 rocket pods. With all the static examples of 8x S-8 pods it is most likely that this loadout has seen action. If the range to target allows the extra drag, of course. A similar loadout on a rolling aircraft is at least something even if the context is unclear. Still not completely convinced as there must be a good reason for the numerous loadouts with fuel tanks and fewer rocket pods. It has to fly to the battlefield and then have enough loiter time to use all those rockets. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VapoR Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Why must you see it in the air to be sure that it would be a realistic loadout? I get that a picture of a Su-25 parked at an airshow is not necessarily believable. I posted some above where ground crews were loading the weapons and it definitely did not look like an airshow. If one is taxiing with a certain loadout that seems pretty reasonable that it would be a real life loadout. Wish someone with more official knowledge could chime in....
VapoR Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 LOVE that bright orange fire from the S-25s....would be an awesome effect to have!
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