KlarSnow Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 3:54 PM, doedkoett said: That's the Strike Eagle demonstrator/prototype. The Razbam module will be representative of the operational F-15E. What they loaded on the prototype and what is authorised on the operational aircraft are two different things, and I am afraid that however cool the load in the pics above is, it is not representative of an operational Strike Eagle. That is not a Strike Eagle, that is an F-15B heavily modified. The F-15E never had the MER's and TER's and instead went for the tangential pylons on the conformal fuel tanks. That loadout only existed on that specific jet very very early in the Air to ground F-15's development, when they had not decided on which configuration they were going to use. Well before the F-15E was ever flying in a configuration like we have in game. There is no reference for how the MER's and TER's were integrated into the software of that specific jet, and its cockpit and interface configuration would have been completely different from how the F-15E ended up being. So there is no way to in a full fidelity manner model that setup or configuration. 2 3
Rudel_chw Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/21/2023 at 11:45 PM, TJTAS said: They better not have restricted them out of the loadout or a refund is in order. nice attitude 2 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Northstar98 Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 10:52 AM, TJTAS said: That would be dumb. We have fantasy aircraft like the SU-25T and the KA-50 they can include the MERs that appeared on the real aircraft. What is the damned problem with ED and MERs. Yeah, how does x being unrealistic justify why y should be made unrealistic again? Especially in a game where the whole point of it is to try and be as accurate as possible? 3 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Northstar98 Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 18 hours ago, hotrod525 said: IMHO i think Razbam, just like ED and so on, should not restrict themself so much on a "model and year". Purist can have their way trought mission editor, and "role-player" can represent other nations but that up for another debate. The good thing about going for a narrow scope such as a specific variant, operator and year is that it manages the scope of the project. We already have more than enough problems getting aircraft released and completed wholly to within their narrow scopes, without needing to drastically expand it. Like or not, doing it this way means we get a very clear end-state to the model and simplifies research, if we wanted to include everything, not only have we just taken the amount of research that needs to be done and expanded it (which very well may not be available), worse is that we also might need to figure out a way to take multiple variants, which may have different avionics and software and then fudge it all together into one aircraft. The solution to this issue is to have more variants be developed, luckily RAZBAM is doing more-or-less that to an extent, at least as far as the USAF is concerned. 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
doedkoett Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, KlarSnow said: That is not a Strike Eagle, that is an F-15B heavily modified. The F-15E never had the MER's and TER's and instead went for the tangential pylons on the conformal fuel tanks. That loadout only existed on that specific jet very very early in the Air to ground F-15's development, when they had not decided on which configuration they were going to use. Well before the F-15E was ever flying in a configuration like we have in game. There is no reference for how the MER's and TER's were integrated into the software of that specific jet, and its cockpit and interface configuration would have been completely different from how the F-15E ended up being. So there is no way to in a full fidelity manner model that setup or configuration. Well, a "Heavily modified F-15B" used to sell the F-15E concept is a prototype/demo aircraft in my book. I meant what you said in my post. I am sorry if I was not clear enough.
hotrod525 Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 16 hours ago, draconus said: The RL aircraft has limitations so does the simulated one. It only carries what RL counterpart could use without modifications to the aircraft sw or hw. Other nations' aircraft are modified so they have different capabilities - if you want that head to a mod community. Yeah dont worry, i'll enjoy my uber-moded F15E
Jerec Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 Implementing Mavericks before the release of the early access version would have been better! Hope they come soon!
bfr Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 23 hours ago, KlarSnow said: That is not a Strike Eagle, that is an F-15B heavily modified. The F-15E never had the MER's and TER's and instead went for the tangential pylons on the conformal fuel tanks. That loadout only existed on that specific jet very very early in the Air to ground F-15's development, when they had not decided on which configuration they were going to use. Well before the F-15E was ever flying in a configuration like we have in game. There is no reference for how the MER's and TER's were integrated into the software of that specific jet, and its cockpit and interface configuration would have been completely different from how the F-15E ended up being. So there is no way to in a full fidelity manner model that setup or configuration. As and when the Maverick is added then isn't a TER an option for slinging 3 of those on each of the wing stations?
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