Not meaning to offend Poko, and I may have been a little harsh in my previous post. So I'll edit it.
I would agree they they DO have their place..... but they dont have to be every place. This marketting stuff creeps into everything.
If I pay for something (eg. a hobby) I really dont want someone trying to sell me something in the middle of it. Be it subliminal or right in my face.
If its a free or heavily subsidised (by advertisers) venture, all well and good. Bring on the ads. But not in something I pay full price for. No way.
Well Heya, nice to meet you. Its what forums are all about.;)
Cheers
PaddyTB