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Just remember that RedFor's objectives were under the protection of two Patriots and two Hawks. BlueFor's primary objective could be reached without fear of enemy SAMs. It was part of the planning to give RedFor a disadvantage that was to be overcome by superior SEAD capability. It just didn't turn out that way. Other than that, I agree. Unlimited rearm/refuel does not restrict the employment of any tactics. If GG wants to show us how it's done, next time he can choose to participate.

Зато исходники предыдущей версии доступны :)

Hello Friends, I had build some Soldiers. Whats your meaning about it?

I believe the goal would be to improve our abilities to work with other squadron's to achieve a goal. Fighters on both sides showed a lack of planning and strategy that will likely be improved upon in future exercises. But remember, better planning and strategy may not result in more kills because defense is a part of it as well. I salute your patience. I just wish we could have sent you to the engagement area sooner. Rugg, I'm not complaining about the Pats and Hawks. We knew that we were facing an initial disadvantage. I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation from RedFor's perspective.

I think if you denied rearm/refuel period, people would seek to make the best of what ordnance they have ... you might see much closer, riskier shots and F/A-poles rather than the 15nm shoot-and-split to pick up more sticks matches. It would force more agressive and more decisive tactics on the part of fighters since they'd be pressed to provide the A2G machines with their 10 minute window on time.

107 AMRAAMs fired, 2 Kills,

to>>ПЗ Раз ты так уж этим вопросом озабочен, то не лишним будет сообщить тебе информацию. Наши гоняли на ремонт МиГ-29 куда-то в район Москвы. Вот на заводе и узнай на счёт краски. Должен признать, что на МиГ-29 после ремонта на заводе присутствовало какое-то подобие камуфляжа (это видно на снимках "спарки"). Но на боевых кажись небыло. За 31-е не скажу, кое-какие снимки нарыл и выложил http://mamoht.fotoplenka.ru/album301489/, сам посмотри, может и сгодится чего. На мой вкус: модели самолётов с уникальной раскраской прикольнее, если они полностью повторяют все нюансы настоящего, оригинального (ныне существующего) борта.

Сдирайте кору с дубов. :) И жуйте в радость.

Тут все проще - идеология движка ЛО зиждется на чистой частоте ЦПУ. Правильно, пожалей нервы и железо. ;)

For those who didnt make it, or was absent: you missed out on one of the coolest online community events ever undertaken! OMG this was sooooo great much fun. .

Ну как,кто что думает??? За основу был взять камуфляж с а/б Борисоглебск,внёс некоторые изменения. От звезд с цифрами,отказался-не хочу перегружать скин.Заодно прокачал ЗШ:) И еще: на счет прошлых скинов-сечас времени нет сходить и слить скины, на этой недели обязательно попытаюсь залить. И еще кто может поделится оригинальными файлами meinit,graphics,,а так же файлами Skins для Су-25Т, из Русской версии 1.12а???:helpsmilie:

I'll get him good and proper next time :megalol:. Nah, was a good kill, I had a muppet attack as I was closing on Calli and couldn't get him locked up on radar, switched to vert-scan just in time to get an R73 away, at which point I noticed the in-coming 27T, too late to do anything about it. *D'oh!*

that's a good idea, it probably will be up to 159th_Fudd since he created the sucessfully red flag squadmatch. I am very glad it will contiune.

Why do we have these threads? Johnny quote me mate "THESE THREADS SUCK" ;) You cant possibly argue these things when there are MILLIONS of variables, the only way you can start these threads is by STATING the boundaries of your information base. IE: "Hi iam a F-15 Pilot here is a photo of me in my jet, here is my USAF pilots licence (facsmile) and here is a sworn and signed document showing im not a 15 year old vsimmer ;). Why does the LOMAC F-15 @ FL10 wieghing 10k kg with full fuel not out turn the etc etc......" THEN and ONLY THEN can anything posted in replied be taken semi-seriously, its a game and its as good as it get atm!! Argue the toss forever it wont make much difference, just go enjoy the game if you dont like the problems and dynamics go play something else.

Are we playing the same game? The AIM-120 in Lock On activates its seeker when it gets within 7-8 nm of the target. If you break lock before then, chances are your AIM-120 would just loft into the sky. Again...are we playing the same game? BTW, the point isn't that the AIM-120 is under-modelled - rather, it's the fact that all missiles with a monopulse doppler radar seeker (AIM-120/7 and R-27/77) are undermodelled. Doppler effectively means that such missiles should have no problem with chaff/clutter rejection so long as the target isn't trying to hide in the notch. Why would you think it's range sucks? Any sources/facts to back this up? And that's how it is in Lock On. Don't know why you felt like you needed to bring this up.

A TK is -40000 points BWHAAAHAAAHAHAAA :holloween: J/K I didnt factor in Team Kills because I expected the pilots that were flying this mission weren't n00bs.... clearly if we are going to have Cali around in subsequent missions, I've got factor it in. :P :P :P :P I dont know how much piloting an Airman does though.......... :megalol: (Just razzin u Cali... nothin but love) I'll have the scores out later on.... I dont think the TK will have much effect on the outcome.;)

Ok if I'm not mistaken you are claiming that : F-15 has better sustained turn rate above M0.6 Su-27 has better sustained turn rate below M0.6 * You are missing my point GG.., but why don't we look at what would happen if this were true :D Everything below is based on Fighters turn rate and radius increasing as speed increases up to the point where: high Gs limit the flight / transonic and supersonic flow changes the flight characteristics of the plane. But first : As for mig29 not being a turn fighter, sry but I dont buy that at all. With ratings of 22-23 deg/s sustained and 27-30 instantaneous depending on a few factors this thing can easily outturn an f-16 in a dogfight<M0.8 IRL, much easier vs F-15. I also would like to see where both of you got your data from. You realize what you're saying about the su-27 and F-15 is physically impossible unless the Su-27 has some fbw limitations(I will refer to this as a star/asterisk : *) above M0.6? (well unless the special su-27 you are talking about changed shape in mid-air into a big helicopter!) I also base everything further on what I found out: 1. Your f-15 has a maximum theoretical sustained turn rate of 16-17 deg/s at it's corner under optimal conditions. (unless we pull>9G) 2. The same for the su-27 is 22-23 deg/s. Now if you're talking about a su with loads of fuel then it wlil not be able to turn very fast, but let's assume it's carrying as much or slightly more fuel than the f-15. Ok so according to your number, obviously the 22-23 degrees per second will lie below mach 0.6, otherwise your f-15 would have better than 16-17 deg sustain, which is not true. Why you ask yourself? Ok so if the su for example hits corner around M0.5-0.6 and pulls 22-23 deg/s sustain at this speed, it would NEED to pull a shitload slower around M0.7 for example. Now how fast is M0.7 at 0,5 km(normal altitude for measuring turn rates). Mach one is approx 1,230 km/h at sea level, depending on a number of factors. OK so M0.6 is what.....hmm........let's see 0.6 * 1230 =~740 km/h Ok so somewhere below 740 km/h lies the corner of the su-27, where it obviously turns at 22 deg/s sustain. Now if it flew faster trying to do the same turn, normally this would be no problem, UNLESS it has some internal system limiting it's turn ability, for example because of high fuel or bad flight ability at high speeds. That is the only possibility of the su27 turning faster at 0.6-0.9 (lets not start talking about trans- and supersonic here because it becomes a lot more complicated and I know the su has system limitations here that hampers it's turn rate quite a bit). As you say F-15 hits corner above M0.6. Ok so it sustains 17deg/s on a very lucky day at these speeds. .... Alright. And as you say the f-15 should be(?) faster than the su27 here, so from the su27 turning 22 deg/s somewhere below M0.6 it must suddenly drop its turn rate here around M0.6-0.9, otherwise your analysis would be wrong. The only possibility of your numbers is: Su-27 has some system that limits its turn rate at higher speeds (observe it does NOT limit just G, because 22deg/s at 740 km/h is quite a bit) In fact a few calculations on these situations.....lets see.......Say that the su-27 cannot pull more than about 8 Gs sustained around 0.5 km altitude? Well this might be true I guess, but that would be at 740, and I dont think the su-27 has a discontinous turn rate chart :D, so we're looking at (under your numbers) a fighter that can sustain a turn of 6-7 Gs - THIS number I have trouble seeing in front of me when I face an su-27. In fact if it would be true, lomac would be even more grocely wrong than what you're trying to say it's not?......Then another question pops up. These FBW limitations (*) that apparently must exist, do they come into play directly or only after a while? Well unless they're "only after a while" the su-27 can never out turn the f-15 even instantaneous under your conditions, so let's leave that. So what your conditions imply is that either : Su-27 has heavy time-dependant fbw limitations already active above M0.5-M0.6 OR "The data on the F-15 is inaccurate" (and that is turns way above 17 deg/s sustained at high speeds, which I have yet to see on any site/data sheet/manual) OR Both I just found these pictures on how lockon calculated turn rates. The pictures claim that the RL F-15 has 20 deg/s sustained turn rate at best: 3-4 degrees more than other sources. Interestingly though, the Su-27 implementation in lomac only reaches 21 deg/s sustained while the f-15 reaches 22 deg/s. F-15 Chars as claimed by ED: http://www.thebattlesim.com/img/technology/pic1_7.jpg F-15 vs Su-27 turning ability at SOME fuel level IN LOCKON: http://www.thebattlesim.com/img/technology/pic1_9.jpg (Remember that these ofc vary a lot with payload, fuel and altitude among other factors)

Try to keep them actives locked till Autonomous, its almost as bad as overriding ET's otherwise.:D

Roger that, Airman Cali. :D

Of course we won :D

I wonder how many negative points a teamkill is going to be in the scoring. Maybe Red won. :D

Link allready posted by JaBoG32_Schleudersitz some pages ago in this thread. But here it comes again, Red Flag Mission 1 Tacview File: http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/index.php?section=downloads&subcat=27&file=739&lang=en

The TacView ACMI is awsome. Its hard to tell what I want to watch.

I'm so bummed I couldn't make this flight. :( When is the next one planned? :P

As we say in Glasgow, pure dead brilliant. It was an honour to take part. Seeing a row of Flankers at Krasnodar and the TS full of so many different nationalities was excellent. Kudos to 159th_Fudd, 504 and Jabog thanks. To all that took part :thumbup:

Скачал образ - буду ставить. Update.. Нда... Копкиты, по-моему, вообще не трогали... Эх... ДМ... Вроде включал - толку нет. Плюхнулся метров с 50 - даже стойки не погнулись, хотя в ЧА уже бы и все лампочки на брюхе и шквал убил бы...

The issue is might affect client performance. I'm not telling you that you can't record the mission. I just saying that I will record it and will make it available to everyone.

http://unigine.com/download/ Очень прикольная демка, да не без косяков, но вот что меня заинтересовало, так это постпроцессинг, там есть режим стерео, что самое забавное, так это то, что ФПС-ы при этом режиме не проседают, но и это ещё не всё, оно работает на картах ATi !!!!!!!!!

А при чём тут это барахло?

Ну если ты хочешь чтобы тебя просветили, то тогда уж так и сделаю. Для примера есть еще такой самолет как А-10А, а также для работы по земле часто используют самолеты Су-33 и МиГ-29 (этот фронтовой истребитель также приспосабливался для работы по наземным целям):) .

Скрутил еще мувик где смоделировано реальное размещение ЗРК "ОСА" проходивщих упрожнений контрольных стрельб в Севастополе. http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/index.php?section=downloads&subcat=28&getfile=732

In game it is used only one gills. They are displayed mirror on the second air intake.

Вспомнил. Прога называлась ReForce

Насколько я понимаю, КПВТ мощнее чем ДШКМ. В афгане, ДШКМ очередью выносил двиг у грача. В ЛО пролет над несколькими БТРами и БРДМами(превосходный уровень) влечет за собой только появление малого количества дырочек в крыльях. Вопрос: что сделать, чтобы эффект был как описано выше? Или так задумано?

ИМХО выход его - только на пользу ЧА. Разогреют публику вертолетосимом, а вскоре, вот вам настоящий сим, а не детские игрушки.