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Hello, @NineLine
just wanted to report a bug (confirmed by other FFB enthusiasts on discord) with FFB and P47.
Equipment: VPfore Rhino FFB joystick
Issue: when adding the curve to the pitch axis of P47 the FFB center moves 'forward' (i.e. pitch down) and with a curve more than ~22 it's no longer possible to maintain a leveled flight with the trim.
How replicate:
a) set curve to 0 for pitch axis
b) start a mission with the airstart
c) trim the aircraft so it's flying leveled
d) press Esc/Controls/tune the pitch axis, set the curve to 30 or 40
e) click OK and observe its nosing down by itself, i.e. it's no longer in a leveled flight. You can then max out the pitch trim to "tail heavy" and you still won't be able to fly leveled without pulling the stick back.
cheers.
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24 minutes ago, Art-J said:
@peachmonkey - OK, you don't care, but others do. As long as there's N.20 runnig along 4YA, there's something for everyone. In some of the recent posts You really seem to be seeking for attention and problems where there aren't any.
with my short temper I'm definitely mis-representing myself, and I'm working on it, and I'm always the first one to say sorry if things go out of hand. But suffice to say the folks I talk to here have pretty short fuses themselves, so no need to paint me as a troublemaker.
However, what I seek is not the attention. I simply try to bring an 'outside' opinion into the stale world that is WWII DCS. The opinion is an answer to the ever-present question on reddit and here, such as "why nobody's playing wwii in DCS?" or "why so few players in wwii DCS?". I keep pointing out the unnecessary hardcore views for mission design that seem to always go in the same direction such as, "well, that's how it was in 1944/45", completely missing the irony of simulation of all of this on the computer. For a newcomer there's already a steep learning curve with any AC, especially if this person is just dabbing his toes in the simulation, and once the said newcomer decides to join an MP server the only option with any players on is an Ultra Hardcore MP with aimbot AA, aimbot Flak, with very little to deliver in terms of the actual gratification. Just relax it a bit. People will come. The last thing people want is to spend 30 minutes flying to the destination only to be sniped out by the ever prescient flak and/or 6xACE AA's on the ground.
anyway, I've made enough noise for the whole year. I'll shut up about it and go away. Cheers.
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I'm with Bozon, the N.20 server offers by far the best balance between the simulator and the GAME aspects of the DCS.
The WWII birds and the tactics are extremely hands on so when the procedural zealots begin to put realism ahead of everything else the experience suffers as it's simply not fun any longer.
I enjoy flying, bombing, and shooting and I don't give 2 cents for 'historical' aspect of anything, I simply don't care. The MP mission makers try to make the most correct historic missions and I always ask why is it needed, or why does it have to be done to the T, which objectively isn't even possible to simulate it? I understand the importance of history, the analysis of the battles to figure out the driving factors behind the victory, etc. etc., it's all extremely interesting in a reading form and using the imagination in my head. But when it comes to DCS to me it's a game first, that also happens to be an excellent simulator. Subjecting me to some weird restrictions because that what the wwii pilots had to endure is fun at first, but once it becomes clear how difficult it was in reality along with the realization that DCS/and the current tech can't model a LOT of important external factors what we are left with is some grotesquely crazy mission setup's that aren't winnable, over the top difficult, etc etc. so in the end the whole experience just .. blows.
edit: and to anyone saying something stupid like "go play IL2" I say up yours. You are the problem.
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2 minutes ago, grafspee said:
I use 2 switch on worthog hotas where switch do not go back, when i push it it stays so i have to move it to neutral position
gotcha.. now I'm actually interested in testing this hydraulic behavior
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so you guys have to manually put the flap lever to the middle position?
In my config I simply mapped flaps down and flaps up and after pressing either button for the required time to extend/retract once I release the button the lever goes in to the middle automatically. And I never had flaps retract due to the air pressure in flight (or at least I didn't notice)...
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check with Chuck's Mosquito guide here: https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-dh-98-mosquito-fb-mk-vi/
If you look at Section 7 it's all explained in there. Here's couple of screenshots from the guide:
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15 hours ago, Steve83aus said:
Hi all,
just a bit of an update, I decided to go with the Reverb G2, I’m very impressed with it however I my screen go black from time to time and loading screens shake a lot. Has anyone experienced this before?
thank you for all your help guys.
to pile on @draconus's commentary:
- you can get rid of shaking if you switch from OpenVR to OpenXR (without Steam), plus it'll make the game a lot more smoother/playable. Check the OpenXR topic on how to get it running. The wall of text in the attached post will seem daunting, however don't fret, lots of players have done it, it's not hard at all.
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2 hours ago, dburne said:
Are Open VR and Open XR both should be toggled on in Varjo Base? I noticed on my fresh install of 3.6 they both are showing toggled on in VB. I am gun shy now on making any changes.
for OpenVR games = yes
for OpenXR games = yes
so if you play MSFS (openXR) and DCS (using the default OpenVR dll) then you need both of them on.
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18 minutes ago, dburne said:
Had to do a clean install of Varjo Base 3.6 which I had not updated to yet due to the reported issues, and another clean install of Steam VR. Finally got it back, and Open Composite now deleted never to return.
yes, you need VB +SteamVR reinstall in these instances. VB can glitch out with SteamVR libraries, which in its turn then turns off SteamVR support in VB (toggle is always OFF and cannot be turned ON), and SteamVR continuously reports "can't connect to hmd" or similar messages. Most likely that was the cause of your problems.
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It depends on your flying goals, I suppose.
Channel Map allows for a rather short flight time between England and Europe, i.e. you get to the action much quicker. At least that's how I see it.
I wouldn't place much emphasis on the "road-map" and who promised what. Given ED's atrocious delays in releasing ANYTHING related to WWII just settle down on the current features/abilities of the game. Channel map is far more advanced than Normandy in graphics/objects quality.
Definitely pick up A8, P47, and the Mosquito. Their DM is excellent as well as the graphical representation of it, plus high res cockpits.
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can anyone possibly let me know where I can find the .lua files and their name(s) for belt composition in P47?
I'd like to change them for the SP to have a more realistic effect on dog fights.
Thank you in advance, guys.
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2 hours ago, Steve83aus said:
Bugger
You can still get a G2, you just won't be able to run it a full resolution with 1080. There's no need to downgrade the HMD because of the graphics card.
However, you'd need at least a 2080ti to run G2 at a decent resolution on your CPU (which isn't that potent anymore either). Search ebay fo 2080ti pre-owned, maybe you can find a decent deal.
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I was going to recommend Varjo Aero, but seeing it's double your budget in AUS that's definitely a non starter. For DCS it's the top VR headset in the realm of picture clarity due to its unique lens design, there are no glares, no godrays, and the picture is clear across the whole lens, i.e. the sweet spot is the 100% of the lens.
Next 3 down would be:
- HP G2:
the good: inside-out tracking, no need for base station. Has VERY good motion smoothing feature, almost without artifacts. Excellent for the VR beginners.
the bad: Pretty narrow horizontal FOV (90degrees). it's using WMR from Microsoft. Deep integration with Windows OS (10/11), which has its pro's/con's. Generally, it's a stable environment, however sometimes it goes haywire due to MS updates.
picture quality (subjective opinion only
a bit less resolution than HTC vivepro2 (below), the screen to me looks artificially smooth, i.e. they're using some sort of a film to reduce the screen-door effect, and it feels a bit 'greasy'. Sweet spot is pretty small.
- HTC VivePro2
the good: not part of the Windows OS, has its own ecosystem, easy to troubleshoot. Has a much wider horizontal FOV, 104-110 degrees, depending on the application.
the bad: requires Base Stations, which is an extra expense (however the stations are more or less future proof and are treated as "standard" and supported by other VR HMD manufacturers). Has a pretty atrocious motion smoothing full of artifacts, however it has some other inherent reprojection mode in it that smoothes the motion, albeit with lots of ghosting.
picture quality (subjective opinion only
a bit higher resolution than G2. Sweet spot is pretty small. No "film" on the screen, so you can see the individual pixels (if you focus hard enough).
- Quest2:
the good: cheap, inside-out tracking
the bad: it's from Facebook. Did I mention it's from Facebook? So you need an active FB account to use this headset. The headset is stand-alone by itself (can play mobile games on it), so in order to run it on PC you gotta use a special "Link" cable, and bunch of other software.
the picture: has less resolution than G2. I don't know anything else about it as i've never actually tried it
It being from FB was enough of a deterrent, however it's the cheapest HMD to get yourself in to VR with at a decent 'quality', but the experience varies.
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14 minutes ago, grafspee said:
Red zone is 3050 rpm, 2700 rpm is designed for max dry/wet power, 52inch 2700rpm for dry and 64inch 2700rpm for wet. This looks logical for me, water injection lowers temp of ingestion air fuel mixture this increase effective anti detonation properties of AFM. This topic is not unknow for me, i remember P-51 being able to withstand 67 inch much longer at 2700rpm then 3000rpm which feels totally wrong for me, why enforce high rpm of the engine when lower rpm is sufficient to take boost, then engine/prop gearing ratio should be changed only.
I guess I'm going by Chuck's guide and ED's guide. Both state 2800 as MAX RPM, with 2750 having the Red mark.
come to think of it, maybe I was maxing it out to 2750 and that's what is killing the engine. But in VR it's so darn difficult to see it exactly, I almost need to dive to the knee level to see the actual exact reading..
edit: anyway, we seem to have hijacked the thread..
i'll leave this topic for some other time and place, but will do more testing, i'm sure it's all because of my actions...
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Just now, grafspee said:
Difference between 2700 and 2600 rpm is very small, it would impact engine life time only, probably. I was thinking about running engine 60 inch at 2000rpm :). Why engine seems to feel better at 2600rpm then at 2700rpm at high levels of MP is not obvious for me, both 2600 or 2700 should not make a big difference and for sure difference should not be in favor of lower rpm in case extreme MP levels.
2700 is in the RED danger zone
yeah, that's why I'm thinking it's either a bug (following the ignition/detonation logic) or we're missing something in the picture. I do remember seeing Yo-Yo's posts from way back warning folks to not lower rpm's abruptly and/or beyond 2000 due to the ignition timing, but that's about it from ED's side. Maybe there's more but I'm not aware of any other info...
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12 minutes ago, grafspee said:
Over boost happen when you draw too much MP for given rpm, with P-47 you can easily push 60 inch at very low rpm, at low rpm piston travels slower then at high rpm, ignition timing is unchanged, detonation wave travels at constant speed but at lower rpm piston travels slower so undetonated portion of air fule mixture is subjected to pressure and temp exceeding anti detonation properties of fuel thus creating secondary ignition, this induce extremes pressure and temps in combustion chamber which kills engine, this can not be detected by gauges in cockpit.
Over boost can happen when altitude of plane is changed rapidly , for example in combat when you dive or climb rapidly, in case of P-47 pilot have to constantly watch boost to maintain desired MP, in case P-51 pilot just need to push throttle to the gate that is it.
agreed on all points. However, in my personal experience with dog fights in DCS MP is 99% of the time they happen at a pretty low altitude with a rather short altitude changes, again, it's my personal experience, which I'm sure is limited, i.e. i'm commenting from my use case specifically. And in those 99% of the time every time I used 2700 with water injection the engine died within 30 seconds at 100% of the time used. Yet doing it on 2600 was perfectly fine 100%. Call it a simulation gap, perhaps, but that's really the only reason why I stopped using 2700 at all, it doesn't look like its worth the time.
Your commentary is making me think all sorts of tactics right now and I will definitely revisit the 2700 dilemma soon enough.... Hopefully i'm wrong and i'm simply making some mistake in the process.
edit: although even with 2700 working I still doubt there is going to be that much of a difference in the actual dog fight. If you are bounced and damaged then it won't matter, if you are bounced and not damaged then the tactics are 99.9% and the extra 100rpm is the remaining 0.1%, which is .. yup. And if you are an attacker the tactics are 99.99% and that extra power burst won't help a zilch.
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3 minutes ago, grafspee said:
over boost =/ over rev turbine
2700rpm is required for higher power, when i fly i can boost above 64 inch with no damage only thing you need to watch stuff
ok, so over-boosting is a high altitude risk then
with 2700 rpm I have very little luck. Honestly I'm not that sure of how much more power it can add with everything else maxed out whilst In a close df combat with yo-yo's, scissors, and other loopty-loops. Now, if I'm chasing someone over long distance there may be the need for it, otherwise it's too risky for me..
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44 minutes ago, grafspee said:
you can over boost engine and kill it very fast.
I only managed to do that at 28,000 ft when the turbo over-sped and I didn't see the barely noticeable warning light, and it was on water as well. I think people may also boost their rpm to 2,700 during the df crisis and that extra 100 rpm is indeed a complete and utter killer. I stopped going above 2,600 altogether, and the engine stays totally fine for 15 mins with max throttle/max turbo<22,000/fully open oil rads/air rads with water injection.
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My biggest pet peeve with this server is the accuracy of the coordinates of the ground enemy units. I'm talking about the targets that are located in the open field areas, i.e. NOT in the cities.
In VR it's extremely difficult to locate them even if you KNOW PRECISELY where they are.
In this server the coordinates are very poor and can cover 5km x 5km blocks, and finding the units is extremely difficult. Majority of the time I find them when they already start shooting at me, and unfortunately it's the only tactic that has the highest chance of me finding the targets. I sense it's one of the reasons why such a few players are actually interested in working on the ground objectives and simply resort to a never ending CAP.
I know the server admins are all about "team play" and stuff. But sometimes I don't feel like talking to anyone or listening to anyone and just wanted to run couple of ground attacks, and it turns in to a total crapshoot when I can't find targets after circling the objective area for 10 minutes, which usually ends up in someone finally noticing me and shooting me down. Yay.
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guys, if you're having issues with objects appearing/disappearing the most likely culprit is in the shaders, i.e.:
- remove ALL mods from DCS
- remove ReShade if you're using it
- run a repair/file integrity check to replace all of the shaders with the stock ones
- delete FXO and Metadata cache (in SavedGames\DCS)
After that try AERO and see if the results are any different.
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1 hour ago, Haukka81 said:
I have stereo setup (left & right) under my plywood seat in my plywood pit.
Left right gear up is awesome. Least for me it feels witch wheel comes up. And even stall etc effects work fine.
Maybe because my seat has very slim padding. (1cm) and its made of 12mm plywood.
that's actually pretty interesting. Can you tell us:
- how far apart the shakers are?- shaker's watt spec?
My rig is metal like @corbu1, so I guess wood particles/glue really do attenuate the vibrations enough to create those separate zone (is that why they put loud speakers in to wooden boxes instead of aluminum?
duh.. )
challenge is, for me at least, that I'd need to rebuild my whole darn cockpit .. lol..
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1 hour ago, corbu1 said:
Hello peachmonkey,
thank you for Sharing your experiences. Sounds like a great setup you built.
that‘s an interesting point you made with the left and right bassshakers mounted too nearby. I was hoping to get more noticable differences in left and right effects. It would be great to feel touchdown on left skids/ wheels on touchdown or getting noticable effects feedback when launching missiles and rockets from left and right winged launchers…….I‘ll think about your experiences, maybe the bassshakers could be mounted on the left or right outsides of the simrig, so they are not as nearby when mounted directly under the seat.
I like the idea with a third bassshaker near the pedals!!!
yes, the higher you'll place those shakers the more of a stereo you'll experience due to their close proximity to your ears/inner ear, however you might not actually enjoy it .. because well.. low fq vibrations near the head aren't fun
. The best combo, in my subjective opinion, is to combine the bass shakers with the jet-seat. With such setup you'll have the low fq 'rumble' under the cockpit + focused small area vibrations from the jet seat.
yes, with my 3 shaker setup I have spread it across my butt, hands, and feet, it's sufficient for my needs at this point.
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On 6/11/2022 at 10:55 AM, corbu1 said:
I‘m planning to mount them in a left/ right setup to my chair.
Does someone use the buttkickers already in such a configuration and is willing to share his experiences ?
I've used the bass shakers for 4 or 5 years now. In my experience:
- the left/right (stereo) with 2 shaker setup does not offer anything unique vs. 1 shaker (mono). The only difference is a stronger shake/vibration and there isn't much 'stereo' to experience. It's mostly due to both of them connected to the same metal frame and not enough of a distance between them. The low fq sound 'wave' produced by these shakers is veeeery long and your lower extremities feel both of them as 'vibration' without any particular direction where it came from. That being said if I focus my attention 100% on the vibration then I can somewhat identify which side it's coming from, however whilst being engaged in the actual flight/dog fight the precision goes out of the window and it all becomes just a vibration.
- Instead I've used a 3 shaker setup: 1 under the seat, 1 under the joystick, 1 under the rudder pedals with volume control per shaker. This way I get a better emulation of the length of the cockpit.
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7 minutes ago, ISantus said:
Thank you both for your help. This makes me much more comfortable. As much as I know I COULD learn Arduino, I really don't want to at this point. Bodnar seems to make the whole thing easier. Now hopefully Amazon doesn't give me hell for sending back two boards and 6 rotary encoders.
I've returned apple juice to Amazon. I'm sure they'll be fine with the return of some electronic components..
FFB spring 'center' moves forward when adding the curve to the pitch axis
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gotcha. In my testing of the Mosquito I noticed that whenever a curve is used the 'pitch UP' gets the reduced sensitivity, however 'pitch DOWN' sensitivity remains the same. Or at least that's how it felt to me. In other words you're right about the mossie, and the necessity for a super long extension. I think VPforce can totally support it with its powerful motors, just need to find the proper stick for it. Maybe try out a bunch of VirPIL extensions together to build a 400mm one, hopefully the signaling to/from the grip isn't affected by the addition of the wire extensions...