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ha.. means I have to login.... i didnt want to have to login in there. but ok, ill try. thanks

I would think their blueprints is precise enough.

ok. I did my own programming and affecting the switches.. so maybe thats why it doesnt work. So basically you just selected 'sync with DCS) in the backlight settings and voilà ? I wonder if there is anything else to do, that is already done in your 100 F18 profile.. Where did you get it btw ? thanks !

if you want I can give you the exact dimensions. Yes, you can rotate the full base to the left to kinda mitigate the issue... but you cannot do it too much, because it makes no sense pushing your thottles forward at 10 o' clock either.

I dont need to take a picture of the DCS F/A-18 throttle. Somebody posted a an ACTUAL blueprint of the REAL hornet... basically the backside of the throttles should be facing your palm llike this -> \ but on the wingwing product it's facing your palm like this -> / i will try posting a few more pictures to describe the 'issue'.. Imagine what weird alpha there wold be on the right picture if I didnt rotate my base to the left on my left console... now.. compare the Alpha on this to the images posted up here (and keep in mind this is the real F/A-18 blueprint..) now of course, thiis is all approx, and my GIMP drawings might accentuate the issue a little bit to illustrate it... But in the end, the real throttle should face your hand like that -> \ and not like this -> / or even this -> | There is a reason for the angle you see in the blueprint up there. there is a reason for most Hotas throttles to have that specific angle, facing the hand. and its ergonomics. look at the angle (even more than the hornet) of the F-16 throttle that angle is to accommodate the shape of your hand. It makes no sense that that angle is reversed on the winwing throttles.

I dont know how you guys that do not notice it, dont, because its pretty obvious why in the real Hornet the throttles are angled that way. The angle of the Winwing throttles are the OTHER way around. rotate your throttle 30 degrees to the left (or turn your body 30 degrees to the right, and notice how much better they fit in your hand.

nope. thats not it. i want the corresponding light of certain buttons (such as AA, AG), to turn On and OFF in sync with DCS, and for sure it has something to do with the Export.lua but thanks !

I would like the A/A, A/G. and station buttons to sync with DCS, but it doesnt work. Any specific things to do ?`In the back light settings of my panels, i select the option SYNC WITH DCS in SimAppPro, let it running, and launched the game.. but nothing happened. Any specific line to add to the Export.lua file, and which Export.lua to modify ? thanks a lot !

thats why I am saying what would need to be changed would have to be twisting throttle arms. but you could only twist them so much, before the throttle couldnt pass each others. it wouldnt be a total fix, but would be a big sted forward to be honest, i dont even use the spacers right now. I mounted the throttle with, and without them, and i found out i like the throttle better without them. Also, your solution (angled spacers) would create a step on the back and front of the trolttle, when aligned. Thats why I think the twisted arms would be a better solution. ps: I will try the spacers solution tomorrow, and let you know how it works. that I can do myself. twisted arms, not so much

Orion throttle base and throttle is superior to the warthog. for the stick, I like my Virpil WRDBRD base and TM Hornet stick, better than the orion base/stick stick feels cheaper, and button are more mushy. and there is some center play

I have the warthog as well. I used to tilt my warthog 15° to the left for this very reason. You will see that with the Orion/taurus the fact that its already at a much greater NEGATIVE angle, will make it worse and not as easy fixable as with the warthog. thing is, it is usable anyway, but it is very frustrating, because as soon as you rotate the orion exagerately to the left (like 30°) you immediately feel how the throttle should be, ergonomically speaking. the fact that no reviewer noticed it is a concern. It felt WRONG the first time I grabbed it in the correct position in my cockpit. and the farther from your body the throttle are, the worst it is. AGAIN; it doesnt change the fact that it is a GREAT product all around, and I very much like both the software, and the hardware. But some twisted throttle arms to fix this would be welcome

Are you sitting on a desktop or a makeshift cockpit ? this could indeed alter the feeling just for fun, rotate your throttle 30 degrees to the left and grab your throttle. And see how much better they fil in your hand. The way they are orientated in the real thing isnt random. It has a purpose

Honestly, i am a bit concerned/upset that none of the reviewers of these products have identified and reported this issue. It's simply IMPOSSIBLE not to notice when you grab the throttles. It's really a shame because its a great product otherwise, but this kinda destroy alter/reduce the ergonomics of the product. from the drawing up there, it seems that it also affect the super taurus the same way. (pic below) And the F/A-18C blueprint, confirms what the DCS F/A-18C cockpit was telling me. there is a positive angle to the throttle in the real thing (pic below), and we actually have a negative angle with the Winwing products. for the Orion, this could be fixed by creaating a set of twisted throttle arms (as they come as a separate part anyway, that you have to assemble). how much it could be twister and still work, is a question though, because the throttle should still be able to pass one another. Im wondering if 3d printed arms could be made. I'd be a purchaser for sure, because all in all, the Orion throttles are great, but this little detail really ruin the ergonomics. or maybe winwing could admit a little mistake here, and create such set of arms and provide them (I would by them as well) In the meantime I rotated my throttle base even more to the left, and its now square... but I cannot rotate it mmore to get a positive angle, or I would have to push my throttle 10'o clock....

I need to post this here, because this is a important issue. I am the recent owner of Orion HOTAS, and im gonna focus on the throttle for the time being. I am very happy with all the buttons, switches, rotaries etc. Coming from a Cougar and a Warthog, I fully appreciate all this quality and the software which drives it. But, there is a MAIN ISSUE, and I could feel it from day one, but I didnt figure it until right now... When I hold the Orion in my hand,i feel like there isnt enough support on the outside of my palm, on the the left side. it forces you to rotate your wrist to the left to get a full grip, like pushing your elbow out. I couldnt figure the problem until i went and check the throttles in the F/A-18 of DCS... here are two pictures that will make it clear... first the DCS Hornet throttle, which should be 100% scale.. as you can see there is a positive angle , which makes the left throttle rest closer to the hand of the pilot when throttles are aligned. now, here is the picture of the orion, see from top down as well.. As you can see, this angle is OPPOSITE... the right part of the throttle, sits closer to the hand of the pilot than the left... and it should be the OPPOSITE... As you can also see in this picture, I tried compensating from that a little bit, by orientiing the whole base to the left (blue line and angle) on my cockpit console, so that now, the throttle kinda sit straight in from of my left hand.. But that isnt enough to make it feel right, and I do not think I want to rotate it even more to the outside... As you can see, there is a simple explanation of WHY the throttle doesnt feel right in the hand.. and it is really a SHAME because other than that its a GREAT product so far. my issue is that there isnt really a way to fix this. I can try placing shims in between the throttle handle and there axis, to shift them to the left, but that will leave me with a step in between the 2 handle when throttles are at the same setting... Anyway, here it is. I hope everyone understand what I mean. If I made any mistake in assembling the throttles, or anything, I apologize, and I would be glad to be proven prong, but I dont think I am... unfortunately. question. Do Super Taurus user have the same issue ?

same for me. got the joy on tuesday, but receive the throttles and the combat panel today !!!!

guys... thank you for the feedback once the timer was to 0, the site became innaccessible for 45min... One hour later it was back online, and I could finally place my order for an Orion. And nope, it was not on my end since I tried one 2 PC and 1 Ipad, and on 3 different connections (ADSL and 4G) I purchased a combat ready panel 3 days ago, but I will have to wait for the take off panel. All is well

And this guy stays up to 2AM to place an order, and when timer hits 0, nothing happens ? this isnt serious....

Nobody ? I would really need to know tonight

nope. that is only partial... I would need something like this, but for the taurus

Is it possible to get rid of the real friction function and only use it as an axis ? any info on that ?

YES. NO LUCK.

I snatched one yesterday.. I need to wait for the other one with LG and Hook to be available again !

is there somewhere I can find the drawings of the various dimensions of a Super taurus throttle (jpg, png or pdf) ? I need to figure if it can fit in m aker barnes cockpit situation ! Thanks a lot for your help !

Awesome. First thing I went ahead and checked ! the Castle is there ! Amazing

Is this normal ? there is a glitch that didn't exist before while looking above you in the pilot seat. is that normal ?