Ardillita

Removed??? why???????

Ehh... this is where the statistics come into play. If you have a situation and you are able to reproduce it in the same way amny times, enought times, you can get conclusions. In this case, I didn´t just did 1 or 2 flights. I repeated the same flight, the same situation 20 times with each missile, haveing used tha same parameters. With each mission result, you have enough data to say "this missiles is better/equal/worst than this one". And that is how I took my conclusions. We all know the info we have on the manual but... the manual is wrong in many things, and the other day there was nobody able to say "yes, the em is better than the er against low flying targets" In my test, everything was the same in each mission (wich is very easy since the IA has only intelligence in it name...) so chafs were present each time I repeated the mission (40 times in total). The only different thing was the missile being shoot. I was very very carefull, I fired all the tiomes at the same speed, the same distance, the same aspect, I even turn my plane in the same direction every time! So, if in 20 flights I have 90% of success with 1 missile, and in other 20 flights I have 20% success, the conclusion seems to be pretty clear.

The same as you do with aircrafts :P You must first lock them up. This is not easy, since your radar will detect cruise missiles when they are near of you (20km aprox). Useing the EM, after the lock you will shoot them down easily. In case you have awacs supports, then things are easier since you will see missiles much much sooner

Well, in some point, I was agree with your point of view, but after reading this post from you, I must agree GG and others... You definitly have no point, and it seems that also you don´t know how to fly a flanker. Let´s see if you and others can understand something: a battle will not, I repeat, WILL NOT, be decided by a missile. You just don´t win a battle because you have a good missile, and so, you definitly can not say that the thing is unbalanced because the eagle has de 120s... haveing a good missile or a missile with XXX features could give you JUST 1 advantage from some point of view. But you are forgetting a lot of other factors, you are forgetting all the advantages the flanker has against the F15. And still all of this you dare to say that the flanker is ablsolete in the froint line????? If you can not fight useing a flanker without r77... then plase choose another plane please and don´t post so many posts without arguments please. You can choose also to fly Flanker 2.51, there you have not only r77, but LG missiles, TV guided misiles, a more realistic kh-41 (this one is really good, ot the crap we have now)

You are completly right, but it was you who simplified the talking in your previous reply ;) And for those interested in dogfight maneouvers and also missile fights, I recommend this book "Naval Institute - Shaw - Fighter Combat - Tactics and Maneuvering" It is excellent, with graphics and real pilots comments about each tactics.

Hi everybody. Today dureing my morning flight :) I got an ugly surprise: I locked an enemy and in my HUD apared a green triangle, like if it was some graphic corruption of the HUD. I restarted the mission, restarts FC, restarted the computer but the corruption still is there. Any idea why is this happening?

Sorry, but your vision of a dogfight here is very simple. You won´t win a dogfight against a good pilot if you plan to just point your nose to him. You are forgetting a whole range of dogfight tactics that are aimed to get you to a good shooting position. And again, if you are at least a little better than your enemy, you perfectly can not only evade his shoots, but also invert the positions and take him down. I have seen a lot of average/good f15 pilots online with many BVR kills that in a dogfight situation are beaten useing a ascending tunel maneover... I forgot somthing: if you stall remember this: energy is life. Never never loose conciousness of your air speed, your Gs and your angle of atack. It is not easy, but with time, you will learn to be very aware of this parameters.

Unmanouverable is a term that definitly can not be used to describe the SU-27. You may be are pulling too much of your stick (I have seen this to happen to those who are used to fly with the reduce G option and then sudenly uses the realistic G option) My advices: 1.- As gg said, haveing your fighter fully loaded is not good. But, after you gain experience, it is completly posible to have your fuel fully loaded and your missiles right there and you will still be able to perform a low speed dogfight. 2.- If you feel the plane too heavy, remember at any time you car get rid off your missiles, and if that still is not enough, you can dump fuel (wich I really don´t advise you to do, one of my favorites advanteages I see in the SU-27/33 against eagles and other fighters, it is it´s great endurance, if you have a situation where you have a very good pilot in your six, and you are able to succesfully evade his guns for some time, eventually you will force that eagle to disengage because he will run out of fuell much sooner than you) 3.- Be carefull with your turns. Your turn capàbilities will be much usefull while you are preparing your shoot and while evadeing your enemy on your 6. If you have a fighter on your six, you might want to use your manouverable SU to perform better manouvers like rolls, yo-yo, erratic movements, etc I hope this help you

SOme days ago, somebody asked about what was better against low flying targets, if the 27em or the 27 er. As there was no exact answers, I did some test. I hope this data will be usefull for someone.The test were performes aginst low flying cruise missiles (tomahawk and agm84 anti ship missiles) and agains low flying aircrafts (little american bombers) at 20 m altitude. My shoots were done at 2000 m altitude and my missiles were fired with the necesary energy so to avoid easy evasions and from a head to head positions. Here are my conclusions:1.- Against cruise missiles, definitly the em perfomrs far far better than the 27er. To say more, I didn´t get a launch signal with the 27er against the low flying missiles (14meters altitude) it seems this missiles can´t be fired against target at very low altitude.2.- Against low flying aircraft the 27em also performed better, but with little difference. But, there is always a but, the 27em seems to be more resistent to countermesures and to ground clutter effect

Sorry, this is not correct, you can perfectly beat multiple oponents useing the correct tactics with your flanker

I used some time ago gamecommader, with very good results.

Does the flares FPS mod from the old version of lomac works in fc 1.12? has anybody tried it?

Nope, taht is just a presentation, nothing more. If you take a seat and think about FC, and somebody comes and tells you that a new release will come (BS) what is your first thought? At least , mine is "what things will have BS that I don´t have now and what about the actual things that need to be fixed in FC will be fixed in BS? Do you understand? I mean: we have FC, BS comes... as a customer, I want to know why should I need to buy BS. I know that we will have the k50, ok, but what else? I have just right now realice that su25t will not be flyable (bad surpise for me this news). What about the other fighters? will any of them be removed, improived, fixed in the actual bugs? All of that kind of things Im interested (and I think many more people is) to know? I don´t think we need to wait for BS to be finished to kno this things, nor this things should be keep in top secret as it seems they are.

This take the thread to it´s beggining: it would be nice to hear some official statement about the features. ED is working on BS, and so, he can tell the features it will have, despite BS is not finished yet. And GG, you say we will have su25t, but Force_Feedback says we won´t... so you see? we need some oficial statement to clarify things like this. And you answer scares me a little: you say BS will be an addon we will be able to just install over FC, so basically we won´t have new engine code? Please please please ED, it weould be uselful for everybody if you just give us a list of features: what we will have and what we won´t have compared with the actual FC

epa epa epa... there will be no SU25t????!!!!!!!! what other things will be removed from the actual FC version?

I think the purpose of my thread was missunderstood: I just wanted to know if such engagements had taken place, because I saw a link in some place but requested a passwd, and I just was interested in watching the fight. I wasn´t my intention to cxreate a discusion (not a bad one at least) about how this engagement should be.

No guys... please, let´s bring peace here, there is no need to start a fight. For those "new" in the forum, you will have to understand that usually there are 2 sides here , those who think their favorite plane is the best of the best (like eagle fans do) and those who think different. So take the comments in a calm way, the war is inside the sim, not in the forum :) The Su27/33 is not meant to carry the r77s, face that (and stop, before you charge against me, you must know that im a FAN of them, and i have never flown nothing else than a 27 or the 33). You just have to practise, and eventually you will see that the eagle sudenly becomes a sparrow jajajajaja An a little advice: you see people online fireing 4 120s? it is easy: take a look at your ews system: if you don´t see radar signal, there is a great chance they are flying low and quiet, and a HOJ shoot is very probable: you just have to do 1 thing to get out of danger: do not follow a straight fly path, fly erratic, go up and down, do "S", that way there is no way a 120 can reach you with full energy without you detecting it on your ews, they will be easy to evade :)

Tropikal, calm down. I understand your point but also, understand this: The F15 is not as superior as you think it is. So, practice a little more with the su27 and learn it´s weakness and it´s strenghs, and then you will realice that the suposed to be superior generation f15 is not so. If you wait a little, you will see a tutorial Im editing (in fact, Ironhand is, because my video editing capabilities are very poor je) about how to engage multiple enemies armed with active guided missiles useing a su33 armed with "only" r27s and you will see that is completly posible to beat them (and for those that could say that IA is different to humans, yes, it is, but IA can evade missiles much much beter than mst humans, so the tutorial I think it is valid) Cali, pilotasso , gg... be more gentle with those that are not as skilled like you. There is no need to be sarcastic right?

This has been discussed so many times that right now I only can answer "Don´t know" In the flanker 2.X series f the sim, the SU27/33 couyld carry r77s. In lockon, the developers say the modelled version of the SU in the sim can´t carry the r77s. Some people say it can, another ones say the modelled version has some characteristics that belongs to other version of the su27/33 and so it should be able to carry them. At this point, I don´t know wich version of the su we are soposed to have. And I don´t care too much, I handle those eagles very well with my 27s :)

"To prove my point, in one of the hyperlobby servers, after having spent a good 45 min on the Flanker (which i m pretty comfortable flying by now) and ending up with like 4 kills and 8 deaths i decided to "spam back" and show the F15s on the other side that anybody can fly one. I ended up with 9 kills and 8 deaths in 30 min.. The thing that gets me the most is that at some point i even got 2 kills just by SPAMMING 3 120s in the direction i was being locked on and then turning around and running away.. that s just lame. I m sure that plenty of F15 pilots will be greatly offended, but guys.. be realistic.. this is just the way things are (ok maybe it s just how I see things..that doesnt change the facts)." sorry to say this, but your "success" in the eagle, was more related to some su27/33 bad pilots who never thought in the posibility that you were fireing 120s in hoj mode.

mmmm here we go again. wich fighter is best. First of all: aim120 is not "autonomous". The F15 needs to guide it in the first stage, the missile only tracks by himself in the las 15 km, before that, you have the same chances than a s27/33/mig with semi active missiles. The f15 may have a stronger radar and might be a little more difficult to breake lock? (I don´t know since I have never touch a F15 in my hole time of useing Flanker/lomac) but esentially, in the first stage both sides have similar oportunities. F15 con launch aim120 in hoj mode... but the tracking head will not detect you unless reaches to some 15 km range of you and you still have to be in it glimbal limits. So, if you are fighting you must be aware of this technique, and some simple maneouvers will avoid this kind of threat. In the other hand, the Su seriies have many advantages agains the eagle: better maneaouvers, a lo lot lot of fuel wich can give you a great advantage if you know how to use it.

I don´t see the ponit in saying " Ground AI has received some touch-ups also, but no, I'm not going to specify." If you can give some information to the community (I don´t think Im the only one interested i this information) many will thanks, but saying this... It is not constructive. Thanks for nothing

ok, sure, by I meant: there must be some "list" of features /bug fixes / improvements that BS will have, or no? For example, I just read a thread saying that in BS IA will have a better FM, so no more IA fighter going top speed with only one engine for example. So there we have a statement: the FM in BS will be improved for the IA. What other things will be fixed/improved. It would be ver very nice if ED release this information, I don´t see why should keep the "secret"...

Is there any chance ED post here, or some beta tester who knows about it, the new features BS will have in comparision to FC, what actual things will be improved/fixed? So with this information much of the actual FC pilots who are not much interested in the heli will have more information on what to expect or not with the new release.

There has a been an engagement between VVS504th vs JaBoG3... squads? It is posible that there is a video about it?