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Great work y2kiah :thumbup: Will use my IFF squawk for same reason. Luckily found a 6 bit block of 0-7 digits BCDs thumbwheels on the surplus market but not the correct type though. Is a seated a bit to low beneath the lightpan though but will do. Looks that you may run in to same "issue" also. Judging from the earlier posts in your thread I guess you will use a PIC setup to interface the panel? I'll tied em up to IOCard mastercards inputs directly and it consumes quite a number of inputs and had to split the IFFs input into dual blocks to cover all the other switches etc. Will use SIOC to decode the settings. For the quiz stated in the thread of why making a quad that a specific sim SW doesn't support.. I'd say why not :-) There's no boundaries for how the use unsupported switches. I plan to for example to have the circuit breaker panel beneath the TISL for general purpose options Keep up the good work and keeps the pics coming. Love the quality of your work Cheers /Gus

Hi Predator. Congrats om your Mig Pit. Superb build :thumbup: /Gus

Hi. Check out "art-in-part" on ebay for one of the sources of surplus switches. These are rather expensive, 50-70$ a piece Driven 12-26 Volts (used 9 V earlier but had some problem to get em to latch with that). Found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aircraft-Honeywell-magnetic-Toggle-switch-F16-Simulator-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3cad44bc36QQitemZ260605000758QQptZMotorsQ5fAviationQ5fPartsQ5fGear An example of how to connect'em: http://www.strandedduckling.com/html/quad_ref.html#QUADRedSAS /Gus

I used same methed so no real info. I settled for 20 degrees. Great work on the panel ! /Gus

Looking good y2kiah. I'll probably "snatch" the idea for bearing supported bolt, thanks. Thought of another thing, the rotary you'd use for the RCVR light, whats your plan of how to use it ? I use a 10k linear pot in that pos (still non interfaced though) to be connected to the A/D input on the MasterCard (O.C) I weight that option against a Gray encoder and selected based on price only . Don't know if the upcoming DCS 10C would have support for RCVR light or not. If not I'll might place some white LEDs in front of the pit for the fun if it.. /Gus

Setup of RCVR lever I made is less then perfect. It works but the gap on center of the bottom pin (pivot point) make the lever twist somewhat and feels too sloppy right now. Tighten the bolt mean to much friction so I need to replace the wachers with something less rough materials. First idea for mech was a 45 degree rotary switch but I could't find a way to fixate the lever on the shaft. If you find good solution, I'm all ears :-) I'll use a spring (just now a rubberband :-) to apply needed force to have the lever to stay in place when activated the microswitches. Position points of the "spring" is below the bottom pivot point and the upper guidepin seated on the lever itself. Cheers

Looks great y2kiah :thumbup: Eny you on the CNC, would be great to have :-) Watch up for the guidepins of the toggles If you plan to use real toggles, the small hole needed for the notch that hold them fixated to the baseplate is easy to forget. Will you have the mechanism for the RCVR bolted under the baseplate or in the frame ? I had to take out some extra width for the cutout. Havn't seen the real Quad sideways so first setup needed some adjustments /Gus

ADI and HSI is by far the more complex units to interface, and is driven by syncros for the main axis. (Open up these babes for a peak inside ruled out any of my earlier ideas for homebuild equivelants :-) Interfacing these is a complete different game then steppers. Civil parts useable can be spotted on ebay at fairly resonable prices (compared with building something homebrewed look-alike). If you havn't already aquired a copy, I highly recommend the second addition of Mike Powels book: http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/upcoming_book.htm super as both approach, reference and ideas. Mike also added ready made PCB templates (also downloadable production files from his site) on the diffrent topics including the syncro approch Scudlaker, no worries but you have to take a dive down into the material avalible and take it step by step. Export info can be found in LUA documentation within the sim installed folders and there's plenty of info avalible here and on other sim sites. Interfacing the sim (if using opencockpits for example) can be made with ready made interface cards dependng on type. No syncros/air-cores from them though. Running with OC's SIOC enable you to push data to external instruments or homemade. LUA.org have additional documentation also cheers Gus

A quiz regarding the discoussion about latched or momentary rockers/togges etc. Donno if I missunderstood the background question If already discussed, please disregard Hocking up the controls (switches etc) to a IOcard (opencockpits.com) gives the ability via SIOC to set the input value to the sim and the type of switch/toggle itself, also a default start value for momentary switches. The sim correlate the correct visual position of the switch versus the input value set by the physical switch. Sounds cool but can be messy after a "crach" and the sim restarted :-) Back to to the checklists :-) Using momentary's make it simplier to controll the sim but as you I prefer to have the closest possible switches to use through out the pit where possible. The mess is when the sim uses a "stepped" input for a function that is hardset in the real pit, such as setting a specific mode via a rotary and the sim demands to a a "knob" triggered several times until you get the desired value. The only way I can think of to fix this issue is to have SIOC iterate the same command while reading the mode output value via LUA from the sim until the expected value match. (for example setting the releasemode on the 10A weapon panel) ************* edit/ ok, NOW I grabed the topic, sorry :-) for derailing...

Beside disasamble an older stickgrip, this might be a choise: http://cgi.ebay.com/RAF-Aircraft-Grip-Switch-Control-Column-Stick-Trigger_W0QQitemZ130317758616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CPV_Aviation_SM?hash=item1e578b3098 Can't say if it's a single or dual detent mechanism though /gus

Hi jrsteensen With best effort:... from a BU0386, PCB labled "Leo Bodnar 2006/06X0282": - Board outer dim is 58,0 x 31,7 mm - Holes center to center is 50 mm long side / 23 mm shortside centered on PCB - Holes diameter 3,1 mm - USB header 12,2 mm wide centered shortside, sticking out 1 mm outside PCB - PinOut block 38 mm x 8,7 mm (bottom block) with pin 1 distance from shortside 10,4 mm / 4,2 mm from longside (i.e GND row pins slightly "above" centerline between "longside" holes) Hope it could be of some help /Gus .. pin max height over PCB is 8,4 mm, pinblock height over PCB is 2,4 mm (leaving 6mm free contact height) USB contact height 11 mm above PCB

Switch labled "8749K13, MS25128-1, Nov 62" "CH" Plate 34,8 x 53,7 mm Hole distance 46 mm pole/level 21 mm obove plate Center pos is non electrical connected Auto (Up) is "latched"/hold and act as a standard toggle hot/cold (left- and right -down) position is momentary positions Switch is from a F-104 panel so I can't say for sure same is use in the Hog but it fits the environment panel /gus

Middle (off) is a pending position (as in "non-auto") and the manual temp setting is made by holding the lever into the selected position, cold or hot. Cycle time from full hot to full cold is aprox 30 seconds. I managed to get hold of the switch from a starfighter panel. Guess I'll need a hairdryer and a freezer connected to get the right feeling :-)

Only one diff from these found is the 4 pos "triangle" switch for air condition heat control (on)-(on)-off-on :) on the "Environment panel". Looks very simular mechanicly as Triggers pic above. Guess I won't connect it to the IOCards boards though :-) /Gus

Thanks Shawn... :thumbup:

Nopp. No suggestions, just questions. Got a load of knobs to drill but havn't found a way to have them fixated while doing it. The vise will leave marks on the knobs or risk to krack them. If the moldform isn't avalible, do you have a suggestion of how manage it ? /Gus

Looking great Rocketeer I got the Defog knob from same as this part: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330377126474&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT Quiz, how you manage to drill the center holes on the knobs. Are you using the molds to keep em centered ? /Gus

You're welcome :thumbup: Nice work you made Just remeber that I modded my A-10A panel to fit my frame and placement for real instruments cutouts been squized/moved accordingly. What will diff in my setup versus real thing (among other things) are the following panels, Landing, Fuel, HUD contrl, MasterWarning, TV and indicators topside. Same goes for topside placement of fire dist's cutout. :pilotfly: **** edit: BTW, do you plan to use real instruments or homemade replacements ? Wonder cause the small "lips" to fasten the stuff seems missing in the pic above. All gauges has standard NATO fittings/cutout so they are rather easy to add. Cheers /Gus

Hi Jocman These might include some usefull info... http://www.everyspec.com/MS+Specs/MS3/MS33573B_7964/ http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA027801&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf /Gus

Would be great if it could be tracked to an opensource or likewise. I got the pic but since it was sent without a note if I could post it or not I must treat it as my eyes only. I made the misstake some times back to mess up some of my references and I can't make the same misstake twice :-) If its public avaible (ignore spelling please :-) I could post the original reference pic I made for reference Thx Chibawang

Hi Guys, Love your progress, really would like to visit buy more often. Great to see the gang of crazy Hog builders is growing. Chibawang. Let me clerify the note above. During the days Frugals site were up. BigB sent me a sheet showing a "standard" pilot with measuring, angles etc in a cockpit (without any other stuff then just the guy in the pic) . I think the info comes from somekind of Nato/US standard documentation. I've searched for it out there but been unable to locate it. From the giant 15 piece puzzle I made originated from a few known objects together with some very good help from some of you here also, I tried with best effort to reconstruct the Pit and used BigBs doc to verify that I wasn't to far of. The pic in the link actually shows "all" but the info provided by BigB:-) Was probed just now from a guy with a quizz about sidepanel sizing etc and it struck me (must be getting older) that some of the info I put on Frugs is not avalible at my home sweet home. Dropped the pics of my sidepanel setup if it could be of some help http://www.strandedduckling.com/html/panels.html but remember it's wider then the real thing due to I'm not using Dzuz rails or likewise. Note that I target the A version. The quadrant/panel heads are allmost ok (the word here is "allmost") provided you watch up for distorsion between metric and inches. You may have to adjust to get the true width. Think Deadman pointed it out some time ago also. An excellent thread for aid to sizing panels can be found here http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=352.0 Cheers Gus

LoL . have to agree on that. I'm still "stuck" :-). Love your solution of integrating the screens under the glareshield. One quizz. The "thing" looking like a calculator on frontmost righhand sidepanel, just a calc or some other nice something ? /Gus

Hi Chibawang. Progress is slow but steady. Real life tend to take tribute. To many late evenings. I bought my batch of aircores from GunMan on vipers when he made a groupbuy together with Jay. Ping him, He might still have some in "stock". Other than that, no idea, sorry /Gus

As far flightmanual states, all lights on the warning pan is yellow, Master caution is red. One beauty to solve is that all "new" alerts should be flashing untill MC is depressed, then the warningPan indicator turns to steady yellow. Alerts that is "solved" release the warning indicator. If it occurs again, it will be by a flashing light once again and so on Allready existing errorstaus during powrup will have solid yellow though From the back of my head, might be way of though /gus

Greetings all. - Trigger, couldn't help getting lost in your skydrive collection of pics. That instrument panel setup is a beauty. Gave me some nice ideas:cheer3nc: Have to ask. The 10A weapon panel shown looks it have some displays embedded for station load, can you give me some insight of the setup ? - RD, these gauges are super, almost give me some headace for decided to go for air-core based instead Cheers /Gus